tsc kinetic splitter being recalled?

harrybeaver · Feb 2, 2012

Hi All,
I went to my local tractor supply today to get a look at the new "kinetic splitter". This is a knock off of a super splitter. I asked at the counter since I didn't see any out. The lady looked them up and said 3 were in stock, however she didn't know anything about them. I went to manager and he said we don't have any so I told him I was told there were three in stock. He said yes we do have three but I can't sell them. I persisted and he said they are all being recalled because they were made with poor quality steel and they have had several failures of the rack/pinion. They have not figured out a solution yet and are waiting for a response from the factory in China. No time frames have been given for the solution(s) to the problem with these splitters.
Anybody have theirs fail yet on here?

stumpy75 · Feb 2, 2012

Huge thread...

http://www.arboristsite.com/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/180355.htm

avalancher · Feb 2, 2012

Might be something to that story, it is no longer on TSC's website or on Speeco's website as well. Didnt take long before that thing bit the dust. How long has that thing been on the market, six months?

Valkyrie Rider · Feb 2, 2012

If that is the case, I'm real happy I didn't buy one!! At least the DR seems to have a decent warranty, but the super split seems to be the only real deal that actually holds up over many years of use and is well worth the added cost for someone who really uses it.

Circle B MN · Feb 2, 2012

Valkyrie Rider said:
If that is the case, I'm real happy I didn't buy one!! At least the DR seems to have a decent warranty, but the super split seems to be the only real deal that actually holds up over many years of use and is well worth the added cost for someone who really uses it.

Some people just fail to grasp this concept.....:msp_thumbup:...and the result usually makes for some good conversation around here..

jeeptj19992001 · Feb 2, 2012

harrybeaver said:
Hi All,
I went to my local tractor supply today to get a look at the new "kinetic splitter". This is a knock off of a super splitter. I asked at the counter since I didn't see any out. The lady looked them up and said 3 were in stock, however she didn't know anything about them. I went to manager and he said we don't have any so I told him I was told there were three in stock. He said yes we do have three but I can't sell them. I persisted and he said they are all being recalled because they were made with poor quality steel and they have had several failures of the rack/pinion. They have not figured out a solution yet and are waiting for a response from the factory in China. No time frames have been given for the solution(s) to the problem with these splitters.
Anybody have theirs fail yet on here?

welcome to yesterday, better keep up boy...you need G4

redprospector · Feb 2, 2012

This is another example of what I've said many times. You don't always get what you pay for, but you'll always pay for what you get.
It is a simple rule of business, you can't sell a product for less than it cost to produce it and do business. If we'd quit spending money on Chinese knock off's, they'd have to quit shipping their crap over here.
Untill we all get a good understanding of this principle, we will continue to feed China and send our jobs to them.

Andy

Evanrude · Feb 2, 2012

redprospector said:
This is another example of what I've said many times. You don't always get what you pay for, but you'll always pay for what you get.
It is a simple rule of business, you can't sell a product for less than it cost to produce it and do business. If we'd quit spending money on Chinese knock off's, they'd have to quit shipping their crap over here.
Untill we all get a good understanding of this principle, we will continue to feed China and send our jobs to them.

Andy

Yep, been looking to buy a bench grinder for the new shop. All made in China garbage. About the only option I have for a good one is a Baldor. Everyone complains about the poor craftsmanship of the others. I do what I can to avoid Chinese garbage. The more you buy, the more you support their junk!

reaperman · Feb 2, 2012

Evanrude said:
Yep, been looking to buy a bench grinder for the new shop. All made in China garbage. About the only option I have for a good one is a Baldor. Everyone complains about the poor craftsmanship of the others. I do what I can to avoid Chinese garbage. The more you buy, the more you support their junk!

The trouble today is regardless of what someone wants to buy it seems its made in china without other options.

chuckwood · Feb 2, 2012

redprospector said:
This is another example of what I've said many times. You don't always get what you pay for, but you'll always pay for what you get.
It is a simple rule of business, you can't sell a product for less than it cost to produce it and do business. If we'd quit spending money on Chinese knock off's, they'd have to quit shipping their crap over here.
Untill we all get a good understanding of this principle, we will continue to feed China and send our jobs to them.

Andy

Unfortunately, the USA is extremely hostile to small businesses and manufacturers. There are so many taxes and regulations that it's just not possible to make most things here any more. China is not getting such a good deal either, sooner or later they'll figure out that US dollars may someday become worthless, leaving them with a pile of paper that was once supposedly worth 2 trillion dollars. What China is doing is basically vendor financing. Once they get to the point where they are producing top quality products like Japan, and that day is coming, say goodbye to what's left of manufacturing here in the USA. Just think of what will be happening in Detroit when China builds a quality car that's maybe 3000 bucks less than a KIA. Someday, quality wood splitters and chain saws will be made in China, they've got wood over there too and when their oil, coal, and nat gas gets too high, they'll be burning wood just like us!

That being said, I sometimes shop at Harbor Freight, I sometimes buy Chinese junk and modify it, weld on it, machine it, and bring it up to snuff and make it perform. Unfortunately, the China made TSC splitter is very likely beyond my and most folks capabilities at modification, some of this stuff just isn't worth buying or fixing, and that's why you have to do your google homework first before you buy any China machinery.

redprospector · Feb 3, 2012

reaperman said:
The trouble today is regardless of what someone wants to buy it seems its made in china without other options.

Well, I think that the trouble today is that if you put an American made product next to a Chinese made product most American's will pick up the Chinese product because the purchase price is less. They don't realize the price we will all ultimately pay.

Andy

redprospector · Feb 3, 2012

chuckwood said:
Unfortunately, the USA is extremely hostile to small businesses and manufacturers. There are so many taxes and regulations that it's just not possible to make most things here any more. China is not getting such a good deal either, sooner or later they'll figure out that US dollars may someday become worthless, leaving them with a pile of paper that was once supposedly worth 2 trillion dollars. What China is doing is basically vendor financing. Once they get to the point where they are producing top quality products like Japan, and that day is coming, say goodbye to what's left of manufacturing here in the USA. Just think of what will be happening in Detroit when China builds a quality car that's maybe 3000 bucks less than a KIA. Someday, quality wood splitters and chain saws will be made in China, they've got wood over there too and when their oil, coal, and nat gas gets too high, they'll be burning wood just like us!

That being said, I sometimes shop at Harbor Freight, I sometimes buy Chinese junk and modify it, weld on it, machine it, and bring it up to snuff and make it perform. Unfortunately, the China made TSC splitter is very likely beyond my and most folks capabilities at modification, some of this stuff just isn't worth buying or fixing, and that's why you have to do your google homework first before you buy any China machinery.

The USA is challenging to business, and business is like water, it will generally take the corse of the least resistance.
We've asked for the regulations we have. We cringe at the thought of a manufacturer having a smoke stack or some such thing that might cause some pollution, but we buy from China, who has no such regulations, all in the name of saving a buck. :dizzy:

I mean really, do people think that pollution is just going to hover over China? I don't think so. Most of our regulations are there to make so called environmentalist feel good about themselves.
If we Americans don't buck up and start buying whatever we can that's made in the USA, there will come a time that we won't be able to. Because there won't be enough left of our economy to buy anything.

Andy

harrybeaver · Feb 3, 2012

I imagine another thought that weighs heavily on any U.S. manufacturer is product liability. Without some tort reform we are going down.

rottiman · Feb 3, 2012

reaperman said:
The trouble today is regardless of what someone wants to buy it seems its made in china without other options.

Not necessarily. If you spend some time to research what your after most times there is a made in USA solution. +1 on the concept that continued support of the CHINESE CRAP and you will reap what you sew.

Rob1276 · Feb 3, 2012

I'm just glad I bought a old splitter made in 81 it has something on it it you don't see any more made in the USA. Not parts made and in china and assembled in the USA. All made in USA
Sad part is the company who made it is now out of business no doubt casualty of they make cheaper ones in china let's buy that one syndrome

Preston · Feb 3, 2012

Can't say much about the splitter but I know some folks have had a real problem with the chinese engines. They are blowing pistons out the sides. :msp_mad:

harrybeaver · Feb 3, 2012

Preston said:
Can't say much about the splitter but I know some folks have had a real problem with the chinese engines. They are blowing pistons out the sides. :msp_mad:

I don't doubt it. If they can't even get the rack/pinion right how could you expect them to build engines.

zogger · Feb 3, 2012

Preston said:
Can't say much about the splitter but I know some folks have had a real problem with the chinese engines. They are blowing pistons out the sides. :msp_mad:

Which engines? Make/model/vendor if you have that info. TIA

BSD · Feb 3, 2012

zogger said:
Which engines? Make/model/vendor if you have that info. TIA

no one has blown a cylinder on a speeco, that i know of at least. just ignorant interweb babble from the poster.

btw, They have Kohler motor's on them.

saxman · Feb 3, 2012

I purchased a Brave splitter made in Streator, Illinois. I am sure some of the componets were made elsewhere but at least it was assembled here in the US. Are Speeco's hydraulic splitters made in the US?

Steve

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