Felling notches

[GASoline71]

LMAO... lighten up Francis...

Gary

 

[056kid]

Farts head is too big....

 

[GASoline71]

Really... look in the mirror...

I don't think he meant to "step on your toes"... relax... no need to bow up.

Gary

 

[stihl sawing]

Guys, I appreciate all your comments, I'm no professional but have cut trees for many years. Just trying to learn better techniques for felling trees. which to me is the most dangerous thing of all. I have had trees go the wrong direction before so i'm never too old to learn. Sorry for the late response but my mother in law has open heart surgery today and that's where i've been for 14 hours today. I am beat now, i will read and study all the comments tommorrow. I'm going to bed, been up all last night. Once again thanks for the information.

 

[stihl sawing]

I can tell you right now that alot of people will disagree with this but the open faced notch is a good candidate for kickback and all around just isent a good idea imo.


Hay I never got to cut in anything that was flat so i cut alot of humboldts and they usually arent more than 25 degrees unless a wider face it is called for. and when there arent any out of the norm aspects like vines, widow makers, trees that are intertwined, trees that have strange bends or "pistol grips" or trees that will be coming in contact with other trees. i usually just chill by the stump and watch gravity do its part.

I can say that will never happen for me. I get out of the way just in case, Like i said, no pro here. Don't want to take any chances of getting hit. Would like to live a lot longer.lol

 

[RandyMac]

I just love these "notch" threads.

 

[2dogs]

Hay old man I have been getting MY job done for the last few years without too many hitches I really dont want to get angry here but you have NO IEDA of my experience on this topic.

If a 100+ foot tall white oak on a 40 degree slope with a good 15 degree lean dosent classify as a head leaner then i am a moose in florida...

If a tree has side lean it can be "dutched" which one,ones would you THINK i am talking about 2dogs?


Or are you just a know it all old fart that thinks it couldent be possible for some young punk like me to know squat about cutting tumber?


I dont care what you think about my skills and technique but i WILL NOT have yoou call me ignorant based upon YOUR assesment of my text.




i am a young punk and you are an old frump.







Call me stupid, ha your funny old ass...

So with that 100'+ tall tree and a 15o lean on a 40o slope what would you do? Can you stand this tree up and make it fall uphill? BTW are you sure you mean 40degrees and not 40%?

 

[Rowan]

Thanks for the info....

I learned some stuff tonight.... I wish I had of know these techniques prior to felling that oak on my wood cutting trip this year... Luckily no harm no foul.

Thanks for the OSHA link... good stuff to know.

 

[smokechase II]

saddaythisday

The entire state of Oregroin wishes to apologize.

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(The more common way to tell a guy that he can't cut is to offer him a new file.)

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Sorry to say but I'm forced to agree with a Californian.
At least with regard to cutting technique.

 

[RandyMac]

The entire state of Oregroin wishes to apologize.

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(The more common way to tell a guy that he can't cut is to offer him a new file.)

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Sorry to say but I'm forced to agree with a Californian.
At least with regard to cutting technique.

Oh gosh.


We didn't hand out new files, they were sent back to the rigging.

 

[GASoline71]

Whew... glad I didn't get a file...

I guess I'll just chill here by this stump while this 150 foot, 40 incher goes over. I'm that good. I don't have swamp out or make an escape path or nuttin'...

Just chill...

Gary

 

[RandyMac]

Chill to air temp maybe.

 

[GASoline71]

Or with a sixer! LMAO...

Gary

 

[BuddhaKat]

Bad advice! You don't understand what a heavy head leaner is and how dangerous it is. I know you're just a kid out of high school but you should have enough sense to not give advice on topics you know nothing about.

Just Dutch it? What does that mean? A swing Dutchman, or a step Dutchman, or a kerf Dutchman. or a block Dutchman? I know that was alot of terms to throw at you but your post once again shows your ignorance of the topic. Oh and how much side lean can you compensate for on 200' tall 4' DBH tree?

What I wouldn't give to spend a week in the forest watching and learning from a pro. It wouldn't make me a logger, but it would make me safer.

 

[stihl sawing]

The entire state of Oregroin wishes to apologize.

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(The more common way to tell a guy that he can't cut is to offer him a new file.)

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Sorry to say but I'm forced to agree with a Californian.
At least with regard to cutting technique.

I'll take a free file.lol

 

[stihl sawing]

I just love these "notch" threads.

Almost as fun as the oil threads.huh

 

[jmcg]

One of the greatest things, to me about this site, is the information and links on felling technique. Its very helpful and very interesting.
I had no idea, that these things had been worked out, but I suppose I'm not surprised. Just never gave it much thought.
I've always just made an open faced notch and back cut and then sometimes helped the tree to go over one way or the other.
A shove, a wedge or rope.
All of these tension reducing cuts and directional techniques are very cool.
Never knew bore cutting.
I'm going to practice that in a easy scenario...that palm guy. That was cool.

 

[RandyMac]

Yeah, gotta admire the passion in some of the responses. With an oil thread, rarely does anyone get hurt acting on miss-information. There are lots of ways to fall trees, only a few ways to do it safely.

Hey Kid056. I was a young one (19) when I started my first real falling job, I was very fortunate to work with old guys, they knew their stuff. I am fairly certain that if you were to spend time working with an older, expirienced faller, you would work faster and safer. If I had seen you "chillin" at the stump of a falling tree, you would have been setting chokers until you were an old man.

 

[stihl sawing]

"Still can't picture a bore cut yet"

perhaps because the term "bore cut" can have 2 applications. one is parallel to the hinge and is used to decrease barber chair, the other is perpendicular and is used to cut the heart out (in the middle of the face) to prevent fiber pulling. mills dont like fiber pull.

a bore cut is any cut made into the tree starting with the tip of the bar and basically stabbing it into the tree unlike a normal cut where you start at the side of the tree and cut across it. It allows you to cut into the tree but only make a small opening and allows you to leave wood on both sides of the cut

I see how it works now, Knew you stuck the bar nose in first but didn't know where and why. I can see why you do it now for the heartwood not to pull the fibers out and the side bore for not barber chairing. I'm gonna try it on some easy and smaller trees. Tahnks a load guys.

 

[True Blue Sam]

Bullseye

I i usually just chill by the stump and watch gravity do its part.

I am asked to cut lots of problem trees, often dead ones, usually with lots limbs that can drop on me. As soon as I tip one of these trees I am making tracks away from that stump. The stump is the center of a bullseye in an impact zone and I don't want to be there when the bomb drops. This week it was a 4' limb 8" in diameter, but I was out of there when it hit.