gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
They look nice but I don't see any that have back gates that swing open to the side. Ok, if you only dump dirt but a real pain for brush/logs if the gate doesn't swing out of the way.
dump trailer's
- Thread starter ewoolsey
- Start date
Help Support Arborist Forum:
They look nice but I don't see any that have back gates that swing open to the side. Ok, if you only dump dirt but a real pain for brush/logs if the gate doesn't swing out of the way.
Ertreesurgeon
ArboristSite Member
I went with the root grapple but now kind of wish I had a rotating grapple. When I'm cleaning up logs after dropping the tree, with the root grapple, you have to be level and straight on to the log or grab a corner of it and then drag it to where you can get straight on to it.
With my ASV RC30 I can pick up those round you showed from the edge no problem. I do have about 300 lbs of counterweights hanging off the back tho.
Do you have a pic of the grapple your suggesting?
Barn doors are great! However, I've never had a problem pivoting that size gate by the bottom pin for brush/logs. On the dump trailer I built myself I made a super tall rear gate so it went way above the sides so it had no problem dumping out logs and such. In addition the gate could be pivoted on the bottom to drive or walk into the trailer.
ForTheArborist
Addicted to ArboristSite
The ASV RC30 still fits in even with the box on:
I have since had it modified so that the gate is hinged to the sides and will swing open with great ease. I use to have to take the whole gate off to dump as it was either a spreader gate or a pickup type gate. (Worthless.)
A few things I wish mine did:
hold more - if I could do it again, I'd get at least a 8x14
dump higher - mine only dumps to about 27°
heavier axles - I'd get at least 7k axles if not 8k
brakes on both axles - it brakes fine but I'd rather it have brakes on both instead of just one.
Look around. There are plenty of companies that make them with the drop sides.
I think there's even one in the trading post here for sale with the drop sides.
Edit: just realized that last picture wasn't mine. It was a rental that I got right before I bought mine but it was about the same as mine and it shows how you can load them. That oak ain't light!
Can you give me the place to look for those kind of tread on that skid steer. I need to find someone that sell non-marking tread. Thanks
That's a sturdy set up you have there.
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
Can you give me the place to look for those kind of tread on that skid steer. I need to find someone that sell non-marking tread. Thanks
That's a sturdy set up you have there.
The only kind of smooth tracks I've seen are the ones for the ASV skid steers.
What kind of skid steer do you have?
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
There's several companies. This is one that caught my eye:
http://www.ryansequip.com/products/grapples.html
Ertreesurgeon
ArboristSite Member
I'll check it out
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
You could not take that big skid steer off the road or driveway on most of the properties I work on. I think a sufficient set up with a dump trailer is the mini skid with grapple and a 5 ton dual axle trailer. You can take both on the lawn with negligible damage. If I am off the lawn I go with my truck crane and bigger dump trucks for increased capacity.
Also with a heavy load of logs that side dumping trailer looks to get in a precarious position?
Also with a heavy load of logs that side dumping trailer looks to get in a precarious position?
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
I'm sure there's many places that it can't go but I use it on most jobs that I get. It's only 4' wide and only weighs about 3500 lbs and with the turf tracks, leaves very little damage. It's a great compromise between a mini and a full size skid.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
3500 lbs! that ain't bad at all. My Dingo w grapple goes over 2k
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
Be honest with you, when I bought it, I really didn't even know about mini-skids. If I did, I might have bought one of them instead but I'm glad I bought this one. It's got a little more lift capacity and height and I really don't miss any jobs because of its size.
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
Get one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2cz0JMRtgo
Bobcat A300, equip it with turf/flotation tires, and drive it around in the yard all day long with no damage (apart from a little soil compaction). They are not light at all: 9k lbs! The flotation tires reduce compaction problems.
I have one, it can pick up 3,000 lb logs all day long with no problem. I am using mine today to set some 4,000 lb concrete blocks for a customer, which get a bit tippy. Once the logs get to more than 4' diameter, my grapple has a hard time picking them up.
The ASV green tracks probably have lower ground pressure, but they are still "skid steer". The A300 does either skid steer or four wheel steer, according to a switch on the dash. In 4-wheel steer mode, it has twice the digging & grading traction, because you are always pushing with all the traction available in whatever direction you point it.
I love it; best machine I ever bought. They are pretty pricey, though.
Bobcat A300, equip it with turf/flotation tires, and drive it around in the yard all day long with no damage (apart from a little soil compaction). They are not light at all: 9k lbs! The flotation tires reduce compaction problems.
I have one, it can pick up 3,000 lb logs all day long with no problem. I am using mine today to set some 4,000 lb concrete blocks for a customer, which get a bit tippy. Once the logs get to more than 4' diameter, my grapple has a hard time picking them up.
The ASV green tracks probably have lower ground pressure, but they are still "skid steer". The A300 does either skid steer or four wheel steer, according to a switch on the dash. In 4-wheel steer mode, it has twice the digging & grading traction, because you are always pushing with all the traction available in whatever direction you point it.
I love it; best machine I ever bought. They are pretty pricey, though.
ForTheArborist
Addicted to ArboristSite
I'm just looking into getting a Dingo. This is a dense urban area around here. I notice where a lot of the tree workers are is where people have wide open properties that can cater full sized semi trucks around the house. These properties around here are tight confines where some times even the wheel barrel won't fit. Generally the case is a mini skid steer and no bigger or you've wasted money.
When I pick up one of these minis, I'll need non-mark treads. There is no way to go around the side walks and lanes.
Ertreesurgeon
ArboristSite Member
img_0292.jpg
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
Don't know of any slick tracks for the minis.
p.s. It's a wheelbarrow not a wheel barrel.
gr8scott72
Addicted to ArboristSite
Yep, awesome machine BUT I did a pin oak today and put all the branches (minus the small brush, we use a 6" Vermeer chipper) and the trunk on my trailer AND my skid and drove home and all I have is an Excursion (3/4 ton). You'd need another vehicle or another trip to do that with the A300.
The other thing like you said is price. I paid $14k for mine with only 180 hours AND the grapple. You'd be about double that for a low hour A300 I would think.
Plus, low impact is great but small the A300 is not. Mine is only 4' wide. Many jobs that I do, that nice A300 would have to sit at home.
Yep. You have a pretty good understanding of how it works.
My Bandit 200 will eat branches your mini would have trouble carrying, and I have a 12K knuckleboom crane on my chipper truck, so we don't use the A300 until it's really a big job.
My next toy/s are a dumping trailer that can carry my A300, rather than the 3 axle flatbed that we use now. After that, I get a mini-loader for the tight quarters and the small gates.
I'm waiting for a mini with smooth tracks, too. I went for over 20 years without buying a skid steer, since I can't stand tearing up the ground everywhere we go. I have used small tractors with loaders, but they have limitations too.
I might be wrong, but I don't think you would touch a low hour A300 for 28 grand. They cost over $50K new. BIG cost for a big machine sums it up pretty well. If it weren't for that machine in snow removal this year, I would have been in big trouble with my customers.
My Bandit 200 will eat branches your mini would have trouble carrying, and I have a 12K knuckleboom crane on my chipper truck, so we don't use the A300 until it's really a big job.
My next toy/s are a dumping trailer that can carry my A300, rather than the 3 axle flatbed that we use now. After that, I get a mini-loader for the tight quarters and the small gates.
I'm waiting for a mini with smooth tracks, too. I went for over 20 years without buying a skid steer, since I can't stand tearing up the ground everywhere we go. I have used small tractors with loaders, but they have limitations too.
I might be wrong, but I don't think you would touch a low hour A300 for 28 grand. They cost over $50K new. BIG cost for a big machine sums it up pretty well. If it weren't for that machine in snow removal this year, I would have been in big trouble with my customers.
Last edited:
ewoolsey
ArboristSite Operative
i can not find a 12' dunp trailer any where, 3-6 weeks on a new one , had one in KC , HAD IT BOUGHT ? NOT, it was bamaged, they found one in oklahoma, $4.799, i gave up on the drop side . i need it now! this really sucks.thanks for the info. any way guys .
Call these guys: http://trucktrailerandhitchkc.com/Dump_Trailers.htm
They always have dumping trailers in inventory. Price? Probably too high, since they will want to make money on the deal. Whatever you want, they can get it if you are willing to wait a little bit.
They always have dumping trailers in inventory. Price? Probably too high, since they will want to make money on the deal. Whatever you want, they can get it if you are willing to wait a little bit.
