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[Tiger Rag]

They are very similar to some of the volkswagon engines used in the 80s. I don't have a picture of one on my computer to show you. The have a rotor head that looks almost like a distributor cap with injector lines instead of spark plugs wires. I think if someone is going to use one without trying to get over 350hp and 850ish on torque the VE is the way to go. The P7100s are great at big power but that is not what he is after.

I would get a Mitusa or Fuel boss before I spent the time to change a cam out.

I agree Mitusa is an excellent pump from what I have seen from friends that run them. They weren't out when I changed my cam. I was FASS, Holly Blue, BD double pusher set up and I think Bully Dog had a double as well of which all had issues at times. Last I heard was that folks were having pretty good luck with the Walbro set up similar to the Ford applications.

I've got a friend that run's an Air Dog on his drag truck and had some issues at first but they worked around it and it supply enough fuel now. I think in general Air Dog had some issues at first but I believe has them ironed out at this point.

If I had to do it all over again I think I might do either the Mitusa or Walbro pumps for a little more cost effective solution, however I do like not having to worry about fuel supply anymore with the mechanical lobe driven and time tested lift pump I have.

 

[mowoodchopper]

Maybe you should do your math before you tell us we know it all...Who makes AC Delco pumps?......Delphi which is owned and operated by GM...

I have no idea what your point is! But as far you knowing it all, you do a good job of informing everyone of that yourself!

 

[mdavlee]

I agree Mitusa is an excellent pump from what I have seen from friends that run them. They weren't out when I changed my cam. I was FASS, Holly Blue, BD double pusher set up and I think Bully Dog had a double as well of which all had issues at times. Last I heard was that folks were having pretty good luck with the Walbro set up similar to the Ford applications.

I've got a friend that run's an Air Dog on his drag truck and had some issues at first but they worked around it and it supply enough fuel now. I think in general Air Dog had some issues at first but I believe has them ironed out at this point.

If I had to do it all over again I think I might do either the Mitusa or Walbro pumps for a little more cost effective solution, however I do like not having to worry about fuel supply anymore with the mechanical lobe driven and time tested lift pump I have.

If I get back into a cummins anytime soon I'll probably get a fuel boss or mitusa whichever is cheaper. Both of them will supply plenty of fuel for most of my needs. I don't have an unlimited budget anymore to play with trucks. The Fass on the 01 I traded off years ago has around 50k on it with the only problem was a leaky filter seal. That truck has somewhere in the mid 400s for hp. The eliminator from wicked diesel was what I run on the 07 I built that is somewhere in the 600s on hp. He quit building them when Airdog started selling for $500.

 

[blsnelling]

I think we have redefined off topic here

 

[Tiger Rag]

If I get back into a cummins anytime soon I'll probably get a fuel boss or mitusa whichever is cheaper. Both of them will supply plenty of fuel for most of my needs. I don't have an unlimited budget anymore to play with trucks. The Fass on the 01 I traded off years ago has around 50k on it with the only problem was a leaky filter seal. That truck has somewhere in the mid 400s for hp. The eliminator from wicked diesel was what I run on the 07 I built that is somewhere in the 600s on hp. He quit building them when Airdog started selling for $500.

Formula 1 did the cam and the massaged the mech lift to pull around 30 psi. Never drops down below about 24psi. Last time I dyno'd my 01 24v is did 624on fuel only probably 3-4 years ago. That set up provides more fuel than a VP44 will ever need. Haven't really messed with mine in probably 2 years so haven't kept up....not much more you can do to a VP44 truck so not familiar with the Fuel Boss.

 

[mdavlee]

I think we have redefined off topic here

Its high performance diesel stuff.

The fuel boss is from Glacier Diesel. 624 is a good number out of a vp truck.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Its high performance diesel stuff.

The fuel boss is from Glacier Diesel. 624 is a good number out of a vp truck.

Glacier is who was making the nice Walbro kits. If memory serves, Richard is the owner. Talked to him about a nice set of ladder bars that he was making with the dog bones....but he was only making them for the 3rd gen trucks then. Went with Caltracs instead. Nice little company though and a good guy.

Yeah, some VP guys did around 650 on fuel with bigger twins than mine but that's about all you're going to do without one of those monster pumps and last time I checked they weren't streetable. I was hunting for 13's in the 1/4 but never could quite get there in my 6spd. Tried nitrous and started breaking too many things.....it's back to tow rig trim....well never really changed from that....might have made 13's if I lightened her up a little.

Would love to have a CR truck but got too much in this one. Does what I need and I still like it.

Sorry for the hijack Brad.

 

[blsnelling]

Sorry for the hijack Brad.

No problem

 

[stihlboy]

Would a Cummins engine in a Ford pickup be considered OEM? :hmm3grin2orange:

Andy

depends as the cummins is a factory option on the bigger trucks ford has stake in cummins also



oh yeah and what happens if that 440 was ruined? granted it wasnt stock
is everything ok? sucks that you put so much time in it and it fails oh well im sure you will build it up again

 

[mdavlee]

depends as the cummins is a factory option on the bigger trucks ford has stake in cummins also

Ford sold all of the stock it had about 10 years ago when dodge and cummins signed a new contract. You can only get a cummins in a 650 and up. NOthing that competes with the dodge 2500-5500.

 

[stihl sawing]

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Ford sold all of the stock it had about 10 years ago when dodge and cummins signed a new contract. You can only get a cummins in a 650 and up. NOthing that competes with the dodge 2500-5500.

Yep, You would be correct.

 

[stihlboy]

when it has the 6 speed tranny oh boy its a fun truck

odd though, why would ford still have it as an option if they have no stake in the company

 

[mdavlee]

In any road tractors and bigger vehicles Cat, Cummins, and Detroit are options as well as some of the vehicle manufacturers like Volvo. Volvo will sell you a road tractor with a Cummins in it if you desire. Personally I wish it was like that in the pickups. I would love to have a F-350 srw with a Cummins in it.

 

[Tiger Rag]

In any road tractors and bigger vehicles Cat, Cummins, and Detroit are options as well as some of the vehicle manufacturers like Volvo. Volvo will sell you a road tractor with a Cummins in it if you desire. Personally I wish it was like that in the pickups. I would love to have a F-350 srw with a Cummins in it.

There are a good many Fummins out there......just got to build it yourself...lol. Dodge makes too good a truck for it to be worth it to me. I like a Ford truck but I like my Dodge just fine too.

 

[mdavlee]

I really like the super duty body style. I drive a 09 F-250 right now. I've had 10 dodges with cummins, 2 strokes, and one duramax. I'm currently shopping for a cheap cummins 1st or 2nd gen to beat around in.

 

[stihl sawing]

There are a good many Fummins out there......just got to build it yourself...lol. Dodge makes too good a truck for it to be worth it to me. I like a Ford truck but I like my Dodge just fine too.

What's a "Fummins"?

 

[mdavlee]

Ford with a cummins.

 

[Tiger Rag]

Ford with a cummins.

Thank you.....beat me to it.

 

[stihl sawing]

Ford with a cummins.

lol Ok thanks, Ive seen a ford with one in it. he done a lot of work on it to make it fit. Think it had like 5 or 600 horsepower.

 

[stihl sawing]

Wishin i had one in my old 88 model F-250, instead of the gas hog 460ad