whadja do today?

[sgreanbeans]

So for this Knotless rigging....do you leave the biner tied onto the work rope all the time? If you take it on and off is a bowline thats girth hitched to the biner the best way to go? I am wondering how tight that knot will end up being.I am not worried about a bowline but Can u get a double or triple fishermans knot untied after loading it up like that? The thing (one of em) I worry about is that at some point that biner is gonna get stuck in a crotch, or even stuck on a stub, or some dumb **** that a bare end wonuldnt have snagged. I am big on muti crotching and often switch ends of the rope will working a tree so I gotta wonder.

I leave the biner in the rope. We use lots of different slings. As one is going down, I am setting the next one up. Soon as I get it back, clip into the new one and I am ready to go again. The slings make it so much faster for the groundies. Takes little time to get it back to me. They rarely get stuck, but it does happen. I use a false crotch alot as well. This way, I can adjust any set up to my liking as I work.

 

[sgreanbeans]

Yesterday we took out a large dead stick, of course when we got there, it was bigger than I remember! HAHA ALWAYS! Had the new guy go up and set a line, pulled a little oak outa the way and laid it over. When it hit, it broke in two. It was LOUD. Set a car alarm off and all the dogs started barking, hehehe, cool. I had told the guys that we need to carry it out by hand, up this long slippery hill. I lied, we got to leave them on site, but rolled them to a drop off the HO is trying to fill! Talk about a moral booster, it was like I gave them a 100 dollar bonus and a 12 pack!

HEY DANNO
Splicin those lines together like that, hard? I have always wanted to learn how to do it, but wanted to be taught, not try it by myself and mess up a line.

 

[NCTREE]

Yesterday we took out a large dead stick, of course when we got there, it was bigger than I remember! HAHA ALWAYS! Had the new guy go up and set a line, pulled a little oak outa the way and laid it over. When it hit, it broke in two. It was LOUD. Set a car alarm off and all the dogs started barking, hehehe, cool. I had told the guys that we need to carry it out by hand, up this long slippery hill. I lied, we got to leave them on site, but rolled them to a drop off the HO is trying to fill! Talk about a moral booster, it was like I gave them a 100 dollar bonus and a 12 pack!

HEY DANNO
Splicin those lines together like that, hard? I have always wanted to learn how to do it, but wanted to be taught, not try it by myself and mess up a line.

it's pretty easy their are some threads on here about splicing that give you a pretty good diagram. I splice all my slings and splittails. After a couple practice rounds it will be second nature. It's a big money saver if you can do the splicing yourself.

 

[sgreanbeans]

Here's your chance to join the elite tree services: Do It All Machine I can't quite swing it right now but I'll probably regret it the rest of my life.

AWESOME, I wonder if he would trade for my skid loader.

 

[the Aerialist]

That's a great buy Mike, you really ought to get it ...

Here's your chance to join the elite tree services: Do It All Machine I can't quite swing it right now but I'll probably regret it the rest of my life.

But most of you don't get it and that's just your loss. I've found that when needing to get major wood out without any turf damage the eight wheel Steiner can't be beat. Here is a video of my wife driving the tractor and cart across a quarter mile of backyards to a loading point for the dump truck. You guys going to lay down that much plywood for your skid steers?

[video=youtube;gkdze25oxU8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkdze25oxU8[/video]

My customers love it and it sells jobs.

 

[flushcut]

Have you thought of using a grapple trailer? They make a model that can be pulled by a ATV and could increase your productivity and reduce you back pain by not using a garden trailer.

 

[1snowman]

100 inch Spruce, Grand Lake Golf Course, Grand Lake Colorado.

The guys at the Grand Lake Golf Course elected to bring in some outside help for this one.

 

[lxt]

Wow...... another Steiner video


Well I would just put the non marking shoes on my Crawler..... drive back in the woodline & pick up the whole top & carry it out to the pad where you did & cut it up right there!! I bought a mini crawler with attachments for well under half of what your lawn mower cost, it fits through a 4ft gate & does a hell of a lot for what it is.............I have three jobs lined up for it & love the fact Its a decent addition to the biz...

BTW..., gradient with a crawler is not as big an issue as with a wheeled machine that has floatation tires..... try getting that steiner back up the hill in this wet weather??? But......if it works for you thats all that matters! Be safe & stay healthy.




LXT................

 

[the Aerialist]

Grapple Trailer for the Win !!!

Have you thought of using a grapple trailer? They make a model that can be pulled by a ATV and could increase your productivity and reduce you back pain by not using a garden trailer.

That trailer is a bit more than a garden trailer it has a one ton capacity. But yes I have looked at the grapple trailers at Baileys and one of those would be great because I could also unload it right into my dump truck with the grapple. At about $12k they are pretty pricey but one sure would make a lot of sense for my operation. One with road wheels would be even better, but they are almost twice as much.

 

[the Aerialist]

Is that how you handled the Golf course job?

Wow... But......if it works for you thats all that matters! Be safe & stay healthy.

How about some photos of that? I have my doubts about a tracked vehicle of any kind not doing any damage to manicured lawns, especially when loaded to capacity, but you can prove me wrong with some actual photos or videos.

The Steiner has worked out very well for my small residential tree services and the videos prove it. In the one I just posted you can see that even after multiple trips, the grass is not even bent.

 

[tree MDS]

How about some photos of that? I have my doubts about a tracked vehicle of any kind not doing any damage to manicured lawns, especially when loaded to capacity, but you can prove me wrong with some actual photos or videos.

The Steiner has worked out very well for my small residential tree services and the videos prove it. In the one I just posted you can see that even after multiple trips, the grass is not even bent.

Wow man, that's really trippy.. a lawnmower that's good on lawns.. whew, just blows my mind! Very impressive indeed!

Keep them pics and vids coming old sport! And (pretty please) don't forget the vacuum cleaner vid either, I'm dying for the release of that baby! hahahaha..

 

[flushcut]

How about some photos of that? I have my doubts about a tracked vehicle of any kind not doing any damage to manicured lawns, especially when loaded to capacity, but you can prove me wrong with some actual photos or videos.

The Steiner has worked out very well for my small residential tree services and the videos prove it. In the one I just posted you can see that even after multiple trips, the grass is not even bent.

Look up ASV RC50 turf edition videos on youtube.

 

[tree MDS]

Look up ASV RC50 turf edition videos on youtube.

Why the hell would he be interested in that, you see the log bunks he's got on that trailer!!

 

[flushcut]

Why the hell would he be interested in that, you see the log bunks he's got on that trailer!!

He was asking about videos that show no turf damage. I saw the bunk and I kind of like it, but I don't think it is practical for my operation, now the Arbor Trolly on the other hand is what I am talking about.

 

[Natewood]

Steiner works ok it seems... I'd have to get double on my jobs before it'd be cost effective for me though. Not to bash or question your biz, but what prompted you to get one of those over a articulating mini loader(gehl al, volvol35 bobcat2k, swinger2k ect)? Those steiners are so expensive! and all the attachments are brand specific right?

 

[the Aerialist]

Now that is slick!

Look up ASV RC50 turf edition videos on youtube.

I must admit that's pretty impressive. The specs say 3.1 psi on the tracks and that's even less than my Steiner (@4psi) so it should float pretty well over turf as it does in the video. I was especially impressed with the thing going over a putting green and through a sand trap.

When it's time to get a skid steer that will be my choice without a doubt. Thanks for the info flush cut.

[video=youtube;DULRjWtjj2g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULRjWtjj2g[/video]

 

[the Aerialist]

It was an impulse buy... I just liked it enough to buy it ...

Steiner works ok it seems... I'd have to get double on my jobs before it'd be cost effective for me though. Not to bash or question your biz, but what prompted you to get one of those over a articulating mini? Those steiners are so expensive! and all the attachments are brand specific right?

What prompted me to get the Steiner was a $6k job with no way to get the wood out. The Zahn might have done it, and costs about the same but I felt like the Steiner was more versatile for my usage.

The attachments are specific and quite expensive. A FEL for it is around $5k and I can get a used skid steer for that price. About the only attachment I might get is a snow blower, as I intend to use it for snow removal in the Winter.

 

[Natewood]

Wow those turf tracks are impressive!! My bobcat dealer has been trying to get me to buy some for a while now.... Never thought they'd work so well! and traction didnt seem that bad! But it was on dry surfaces and those machines have suspension. Also did you notice they didn't do any sharp manuevers with a load? My mt has that kind of grond pressure but when you grab a 1500lb log you're almost doubling the psi- especially because its not balanced over the entire track. Anyone running turf tracks on a non suspended loader?

 

[Natewood]

What prompted me to get the Steiner was a $6k job with no way to get the wood out. The Zahn might have done it, and costs about the same but I felt like the Steiner was more versatile for my usage.

The attachments are specific and quite expensive. A FEL for it is around $5k and I can get a used skid steer for that price. About the only attachment I might get is a snow blower, as I intend to use it for snow removal in the Winter.

Yeah thats what I thought about those! I couldn't even find a reasonably priced used one, they do hold theier value well and look neat!

Oh, and imho I would go with a art loader long before I'd buy a skid if I had to do it again for residential tree work. I have three full sized skids and they hardly leave the yard for tree work. the mini traks and our art loader get used almost constantly. And art loaders have skidsteer style attach plates for the most part so attachment are easy to come by....

 

[BlackOakTreeServ]

The guys at the Grand Lake Golf Course elected to bring in some outside help for this one.

Nice, but 100 inches around, is barely a meduim size tree here in CA...just measure width at DBH (diamiter at breast height)

Looked like a easy drop