Worst nut job I've ever went to quote

[millbilly]

Im not quite sure of the job you are explaining. Are you just cutting the wood into rounds 16" and stacking or are you splitting the rounds you cut and stacking either way $125 a cord sounds a little high.
Paying you when he burns the wood is bs

 

[Gologit]

Eh... Must be from California or Colorado...:hmm3grin2orange:

Now, be nice. Or we'll start buying all our mis-fits one way bus tickets to Missouri. :hmm3grin2orange:

You're pretty close to right though. I wish you weren't.

 

[indiansprings]

Im not quite sure of the job you are explaining. Are you just cutting the wood into rounds 16" and stacking or are you splitting the rounds you cut and stacking either way $125 a cord sounds a little high.
Paying you when he burns the wood is bs

3 rows of wood cut and split 4'+ high x 8' each pc of firewood is cut to 16" lenght before splitting. Total width of all three rows 48" x 4'6" tall x 8' long.

 

[Hedgerow]

Im not quite sure of the job you are explaining. Are you just cutting the wood into rounds 16" and stacking or are you splitting the rounds you cut and stacking either way $125 a cord sounds a little high.
Paying you when he burns the wood is bs

$125 for a cord cut split and stacked is completely reasonable... Any less, and your wasting your time...

 

[Hedgerow]

Now, be nice. Or we'll start buying all our mis-fits one way bus tickets to Missouri. :hmm3grin2orange:

You're pretty close to right though. I wish you weren't.

Sorry man... I doubt he's from your part of the state... :hmm3grin2orange:

 

[dingeryote]

Indian,

Make sure to keep half a dozen cord of Popple and silver maple set aside for the jackass.
He WILL be calling within a week or two when it gets cold, because word gets around quick and nobody will be wanting to deal with the Jackass.

Get the CASH in hand before unloading the truck though.

I hope that kids Dad educates the dumbass. Keep us posted.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[howellhandmade]

It's one thing to try to make a screwed up deal with a grown man. The business with the kid is another matter. If the kid thought he was getting paid and he didn't, and if he stacked three cords and the guy only wants to pay for one, then that's criminal. Perhaps there's a friendly constable who would be willing to visit the place and verify the quantity of wood so the kid can go to small claims with that deposition in his pocket. A local judge might decide to teach the professor a lesson. You can get by with being a jerk for longer in a city than you can in the country -- you make yourself unwelcome in one Starbucks, there's another one a block away. Not the same deal in a farm community. Bad idea to make enemies.

 

[Walt41]

I just want to know how the current administration passed this guy over for a cabinet position.

 

[fubar2]

Most college professors = educated fools.

 

[David (saltas)]

Utlilities bill

telephone
electricity
water
gas

We all get an account for these 90 days after we have started consuming
All of these are credit accounts and have lots of terms and conditions.

Petrol, diesel are cash up front and if the bowser is playing up you may have been sold some air and or water.....



Ok seriously now

The fool wants you to cut and stack his wood

He is wet hiring you and your saws to cut and stack his wood.

The quality of the wood is his business as he already owns the wood, he may pick the trees he wants to use.

The quality of the wood is only an issue if you are supplying wood to him


Indian springs you did the right thing, as for the BS with the 17 year old not your problem but don't be shy about letting folks around town know about it.

 

[openloop]

$125 for a cord cut split and stacked is completely reasonable... Any less, and your wasting your time...

Around here $140 or so will buy you a delivered and stacked cord of someone elses wood.

 

[Jules083]

Around here $140 or so will buy you a delivered and stacked cord of someone elses wood.

Every area is different, and situations dictate. For me to sell wood, it's just as easy to cut mine and deliver as it would be for me to haul equipment to someone else's house, haul the wood up to the woodpile, and stack it. My price would probably be a little bit cheaper but not much.

Indiansprings, there's always guys like that, and I've just started laughing when it happens. I delivered round bales of hay a few years ago to a guy that didn't have a tractor. We rolled the bales off of the truck and as soon as they hit the ground he started trying to talk me down to $25, when we agreed on $30 over the phone. I got my $30 and left. A while later he called me and said his other supplier ran out and wanted hay. I told him $100 a bale. I heard from a friend that he was going to the auction that winter paying between $35 and $50, and having to haul them himself.

Word will get out, and that guy will either have a cold winter or learn how to do business quick.

 

[FlyingB]

Most college professors = educated fools.

...Over-educated, under-worked, they feel underpaid and afraid. Ironic too that Mizzou spells it out for everyone in their reference material: G5450 Wood Fuel for Heating | University of Missouri Extension

He mustn't instruct there. Especially for the all the trouble with the lad. Here's his avenue to remuneration:

"Missouri law requires that in the sale of firewood a bill of sale be provided showing the name and address of the purchaser and the seller and the cords or fractions of a cord involved in the sale."

And, someone should remind him that pictures are worth a thousand words, and maybe several cords!

 

[CTYank]

Sounds here like the perfesser is a bit of a control freak. Out of his jurisdiction, though.

Waiting to hear how the kid's dad straightens him out on how business is transacted fairly. Hoping that he has some constable along to keep him from laying out the thief. (That's what he is.)

Bad news like this gets around real quick- it'll be cash in advance all around with this guy.

 

[Steve NW WI]

Indiansprings, let us know how the sit with the kid turns out. Were I in those shoes, I'd be filing a mechanics' lein on the wood he cut tomorrow morning down at the courthouse. While he doesn't own the wood, he does have a vested interest in it, and it might get Jack Wagon's attention.

BTW, you sure he's not an IL escapee? I'm thinking home in Chicago, work in Springfield, kinda like most of the better crooks in that state. Up here we call em FIPs ^^%$in Illinois People (not slamming the whole state, just those it fits.) Far too many of em own a sliver of our lakeshores up here.

 

[logbutcher]

Details ?

Details Indiansprings please : name, SS #, address, pics. There will be an AS who will want the job .

This has to be submitted to Darwin Award site.

 

[1project2many]

telephone
electricity
water
gas

We all get an account for these 90 days after we have started consuming
All of these are credit accounts and have lots of terms and conditions.

Water is sometimes charged up front in rural areas when picked up in tanks. Gas / Propane is often charged "at time of delivery" in rural areas. My cell phone provider "precharges" for a month's service. Getting sufficient electricity delivered in handy storage containers is a bit tricky hence the monthly charges and "pay as you go" metering.

The question to me is what did that guy think he was buying??? He asked for labor, you (OP) quoted price on labor, then he wants to base payment on quality of materials, not quality of labor???

I once worked for a guy that "took back" some auto body repair work when the customer refused to pay part of a bill. This work was in addition to some insurance work. Most of the charge
(about $400) was worked into the insurance bill but about $50 was left to cash and the customer felt he shouldn't pay anything. To my understanding everything had been discussed and OK'd up front so this was like renegotiating after the work was done. Car owner kept returning with "work quality" complaints as a justification for lack of payment. Eventually shop owner got pissed, said "You're right, I can't do it the way you want" and walked out to car with a small grinder. Took about 30 seconds to remove the paint and filler that had been used to hide several hail dents in the hood. While the car owner was tripping over his jaw the boss said "We're square now" and walked back inside.

Please keep us updated if you find out how the kid's dad responded. I might be tempted to bring over whole length logs and threaten to drop 'em then load up the splits to take back home if payment isn't forthcoming. "And I won't even charge ya for the cost of fuel or the labor to load 'em in my truck." Can't imagine Mr. Professor getting much sympathy trying to lodge a formal complaint about that one.

 

[redneck51587]

I had a guy call this summer for two full cords of wood. I delivered this fall when I had time and i was told to stack it in the garage in his racks. The racks did measure two full cords... And i had the cords stacked at home so I knew they were full. I collected earnest money on the first load and it took five more to fill his "two cords"!!! I kept telling him his two cords were full after the fourth pickup load and he said he wouldn't pay til the racks were full. I filled the racks just so I could actually get my money... Guy was a cop and i didn't want any trouble since its illegal to bootleg wood across county lines here where I live. Anyway... I noticed upon final delivery and payment he had a stack on the back porch and a rank in the back yard. Ugh... Lesson learned.

 

[dumbarky]

Hey Indiansprings isn't Missouri the show me state.

I think I would have told him, "sir this is the show me state, you show me the money, I'll show you the cords". Nah you did the right thing. We have folks move in here from other parts of the Union, and I use that term loosely. They think us dumbarky's and can con us into doin all their underlings labor for little to nothing. They usually stick it to a few good hearted well meaning dumbarkys but in the long run their true colors show. Most of us now are pretty clanish when outa state' folk move in or back in as sometimes the case. They have to prove their worth somewhat before we wade out in the waters with them. Bad thing is it's not the poor ones that need the help that pull those stunts. It's usually the well funded, well educated ones with no honor.

Dumbarky

 

[tomsteve]

beings how your son noticed it was fishy, i applaud you for teaching him good. his wood??? and he's concerned about how it will burn and wont pay for the labor until after??? i would highly suggest stayin away from this crackpot as ya cant fix stupid.