Barber chair!

[Hedgerow]

LOL!!!
That's a picturesque fencerow. How'd ya kill off all the Blackberry brambles, Greenbrier, Poison Ivy, and grapevine?

That one is ready for chest high snippage and re-stringing.
Nice!!


Stay safe!
Dingeryote

Those Hedge tree roots grow 50 feet either direction, and what they don't shade out, they STARVE out... Cutting these things really call for mechanical intervention at times... They don't barber chair or anything exciting like that, but they are heavy, and like to grow horizontally...

 

[jropo]

I'll post this again. This was a blowdown. The firewood cutters made the mistake of starting at the small end, instead of starting near the rootwad and stablizing the tree more. They got a few loads before it scared them.

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That will make your teeth click.:beat-up::doctor:

 

[Nuzzy]

WTF--Ok big fella, your attitude is no "superior". More stupidity. You need a spanking. When you have the cojones to tell someone to "shut the #### up", come to pappa. And those "superiors" are who and why ?

"Those superiors" are such based on decades of (and this is important now so try to pay attention) PROPER logging/felling knowledge and experience.

Now, can we get back to firewood and heating. These bloggers from the Forestry and Logging don't even use wood heat. Go back.

I may be in the minority, but I'm glad the Logging fellas made their way down here to offer their expertise. I'd rather learn from a pro than a certified amateur.

 

[dingeryote]

Those Hedge tree roots grow 50 feet either direction, and what they don't shade out, they STARVE out... Cutting these things really call for mechanical intervention at times... They don't barber chair or anything exciting like that, but they are heavy, and like to grow horizontally...

We get 'em here too. Except they conspire with the thorny stuff to keep thier natural enemys(Farmers with Chainsaws) at bay, and nothing, not even Walnuts, stop our Grapevines.

I hate it when they twist around enough that there is no way to cut a limb, without the end of it tangling with another in the canopy, and making a glorious mess of an overhead minefield. It's like a big Jenga puzzle LOL!!

Havn't had the opportunity to cut fencerow Hedge in several years, as it is getting cleaned up as fast as oil prices are going up.
Lotsa Boxelder and swamp maple...dangit.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[jropo]

It is amazing how much field you can reclaim by cleaning up fence rows. Plus you do not have to worry about running sticks through the mowing machine or baler.

I wonder how well a good gas powered pole saw would work on that?
Work your way in, then work your way up. Prune and straighten, then you can maybe harvest a few in the future.
To remove? Rent a chipper.

 

[dingeryote]

"Those superiors" are such based on decades of (and this is important now so try to pay attention) PROPER logging/felling knowledge and experience.








I may be in the minority, but I'm glad the Logging fellas made their way down here to offer their expertise. I'd rather learn from a pro than a certified amateur.

Looks like you caught him before he slithered back out. Classic!!!:hmm3grin2orange:

The only logs the dude cuts, requires Charmin afterwards, and he's busting on guys who have cleared Mountains in weeks....whata dweeb.

Stay safe!
Dingeryote

 

[Gologit]

That will make your teeth click.:beat-up::doctor:

That would make more than my teeth click. Somebody was real lucky. Usually when those things happen they happen in an eye blink.

From the looks of Slowp's picture it scared them so bad they didn't even finish cutting what they had on the ground.

 

[KiwiBro]

It is amazing how much metal you can find by cleaning up fence rows. Plus you do not have to worry about running sticks through the mowing machine or baler.

There, that's better. You're most welcome.

 

[KiwiBro]

Whatever happened to the slopping back cut for these potential barber chairs?

?

 

[jropo]

That would make more than my teeth click. Somebody was real lucky. Usually when those things happen they happen in an eye blink.

From the looks of Slowp's picture it scared them so bad they didn't even finish cutting what they had on the ground.

Ya looks like (Well I hope) they got REAL lucky there. I hope they had a long bar.
Scary thing is, not you or anything is going to stop it.
My question is why does it look like it was bucked for a saw log?
Was these guys the large scale firewooders?

 

[HorseFaller]

Well I'll tell one or two on myself. First (one no photo). Cutting birch at a friends. Face cut not a third and not opened enough. Started my back cut with about 4 inches left to cut the face closed and upped it ripped. I kept cutting watching all the time and wide open still cutting. Ripped six feet till I got it cut up and layed out. When I turned around my friend was thirty yards away and still running.
Second
Got to lazy to try and spring board a big maple. Holding saw high trying to cut. To much forward weight, not enough throttle, to narrow of a face, and should have bored it. I cut for an hour after this and left the hill for the day.

 

[TreePointer]

Whatever happened to the slopping back cut for these potential barber chairs?

Some interesting reading. It starts out on another topic but quickly jumps to sloping backcuts:
http://www.arboristsite.com/homeowner-helper-forum/180696.htm

More info:
Logging eTool - The Back Cut - Incorrect Backcutting

Many discussions on this:
sloping angled backcut

 

[RandyMac]

That is a tasty one HorseFaller.

Yeah barberchairs, pretty cool, but if you want to really ####-up, have a tree uproot on ya.

 

[HorseFaller]

That is a tasty one HorseFaller.

Yeah barberchairs, pretty cool, but if you want to really ####-up, have a tree uproot on ya.

:msp_cursing::censored: ya i watched one of Jack/Hotsaws101 vid where one he is bore cutting with a good lean pull a root. the crazy ones are in some of the Westcoastfaller vids. theres one an over ripe cedar pulls half a stump out of the ground. i imagine its harder to run away when the ground under your feet is going with the tree.

 

[KiwiBro]

Some interesting reading. It starts out on another topic but quickly jumps to sloping backcuts:
http://www.arboristsite.com/homeowner-helper-forum/180696.htm

More info:
Logging eTool - The Back Cut - Incorrect Backcutting

Many discussions on this:
sloping angled backcut

Thanks. That's one of the few lessons I've actually already learned. T'was extracting the urine with that previous post, honest.

 

[TreePointer]

Thanks. That's one of the few lessons I've actually already learned. T'was extracting the urine with that previous post, honest.

:embarrassed: Oops, sorry. I take things too seriously sometimes. Maybe I need to drink more beer. That must be it!

 

[paccity]

the fun is every where on this site. KiwiBro, at least you spelled the cut rite.

 

[Preston]

I've learned some interesting things on this tread too. I best keep my experiences to myself least I open myself up to attack from a few of the elite. Most are interested in helping and/or explaining why something should be done, but there is the percentage that has a tongue, and fingers that somehow like to get scrappy. To you folk that like to be a little sarcastic, here's one of the best, but I just don't think a site is promoted very well with this kinda crap. So I'll leave it to the rest of you to carry on that tradition.

I post what I've had happen to me and some of the responses are off the wall. I don't get it. I never said I knew what I was doing. I bought two saws and a truck and headed to the timber to feed the family. I had to learn as I went. I never reach the point where I knew it all like some of you. That just shows the Lord really didn't make us all the same. Some of us are just smarter than the others. So I'll just muddle along in my ignorant world and watch the rest of you.

By the way, I really do use the brakes on my truck. And the seat belt sometimes. :cool2:

Some of you folks are plumb weird. :smile2:

 

[Whitespider]

Once I hit the hollow she popped and splintered. It left the front side of the tree about 20' up… I saw it start to split and was able to get out of the way.

Two days I’ve been looking for the picture of a barber chair I experienced some years back so I could scan it and post… but no luck, so I’ll just tell y’all about it.

It was a 3 ft diameter oak that stood straight and clean, with a good 30 feet of branchless trunk… I figured it to be a slam-dunk fall. Made a nice clean face cut about a third diameter, and found solid wood all the way. Stopped and gassed up the little 024 I was using (don’t want it running out’a fuel in the back cut) with a 20 inch bar. After checking the fall zone and notch again I started my back cut. I didn’t get but maybe 6-8 inches in when I heard a huge cracking noise, about the same time black colored debris is flying off the chain, and watched the split start right above the bar. Yanked the saw and took off running until I got a safe distance away and turned to look… nothing, still standing there. Five minutes later and it’s still standing there with a crack running about 8-10 feet up that you can see daylight through. Twice I approached the tree to do something? And twice it split a bit more as I was walking up, causing me to run away again. Finally, after a good twenty minutes it went over, splitting near 25 feet up and resting on some huge limbs. Now I had a 3 ft DBH oak sitting horizontal 25 feet in the air… damn scary. The back side of that tree was as hollow as a drain pipe, with absolutely no indication of such from outer appearances.

Now, when falling big trees that might be hollow, I do a boring cut in the center of the notch … just for piece of mind.

 

[Dalmatian90]

So I'll just muddle along in my ignorant world and watch the rest of you.

Would be better if you kept your ears and eyes open and mouth shut...and tried to learn something rather then being stubborn and determined to muddle along in happy ignorance.

I can't tell if your posts are sincere or are trolling. Which is what a lot of the other posters were questioning either straight or sarcastically.

Claiming you spent two years cutting down 24" trees and gave up on using face cuts early on strain credibility. I just can't see how you do that, not without trees regularly sitting back on your saw. Not without regularly running from trees falling wild. Even with wedges (which you didn't mention using), with no face cut, you would've had regular problems. I guess you could've been very lucky. It took me a while to learn the basics of notching, back cuts, and wedges...before I did I had trees sit back or a few times simply sit down on my saw.

You did have one question why a tree slid back and crushed your 041. Simple answer is you didn't have a face cut to stop it from happening, which is one of the purposes to a properly made face cut (it provides a lip for the tree to bite into and pivot forward from, rather then the butt sliding backwards off the stump).