The "Not So Pro" discussion thread...of course Pros are welcome!

[northmanlogging]

Don't mean to answer for Pac,

But I think your talking about the shovel, or an excavator with a log loading attachment. Very common practice out here, known as shovel logging.

Basically the cutter falls em and the shovel stacks em up usually next to the road or they will daisy chain there stack, stack move restack move ad nauseum, sometimes up to 100's of feet...

The bonus is you can call a straight truck to come pick up the load cause you can then use the shovel to load the truck.

The trucks come in with the trailer on the back of the truck (piggy back) so they can back in a really long ass ways without to much difficulty, not to mention since they don't have to counter steer for the trailer they can come in a whole lot faster. Unlike out east with your guy fixed trailers (we call em hay wagons) where they have to have a giant turn around on the landing or a nice long straight road they can back down or a loop road. In the mountains you don't have the option of any of that so its back in down a windy switchbacked road (sometimes 20 or more miles) or drive straight in and turn around on spur road and back the last bit in.

Anyway I digres

 

[twochains]

Thanks NM...yeh, i'm not used to any of that type machinery or the names of it. I see your alls pictures, but that is about all I know about it. So hats a shovel...well what is a forwarder? It's like what bitzer uses isn't it? Like a skidder with knuckleboom and a trailer behind it?

Any who...hey NM, did ya get a bunch of timber down today? I had a pretty good day of it, rained on me this morning but got near 80* this afternoon.

 

[paccity]

Don't mean to answer for Pac,

But I think your talking about the shovel, or an excavator with a log loading attachment. Very common practice out here, known as shovel logging.

Basically the cutter falls em and the shovel stacks em up usually next to the road or they will daisy chain there stack, stack move restack move ad nauseum, sometimes up to 100's of feet...

The bonus is you can call a straight truck to come pick up the load cause you can then use the shovel to load the truck.

The trucks come in with the trailer on the back of the truck (piggy back) so they can back in a really long ass ways without to much difficulty, not to mention since they don't have to counter steer for the trailer they can come in a whole lot faster. Unlike out east with your guy fixed trailers (we call em hay wagons) where they have to have a giant turn around on the landing or a nice long straight road they can back down or a loop road. In the mountains you don't have the option of any of that so its back in down a windy switchbacked road (sometimes 20 or more miles) or drive straight in and turn around on spur road and back the last bit in.

Anyway I digres

that's the jist of it. saved me some finger pokin. shovel logging is economical on small and easy ground. less equipment to haul, and we all know that's not cheap. and you have something to stack slash. that deer had a double drum on it also so you can yard with it to.

 

[slowp]

thats why they call us mossybacks out here. well the irony is that the property was an old hippie commune. lasted about a decade or so. now we are logging it. actually the owner and original resident is an pretty nice guy.

It isn't the place I thought of. I was thinking of Deadwood, which is east of Florence.

 

[paccity]

same machine showing the drums on the side . with shovel logging two or three guy's can down and move a surprising amount of wood.

 

[slowp]

Shovel logging. They just deck it, move it, deck it repeat til it gets to the landing, where it is decked again.

[video=youtube_share;_em9GZEXAW4]http://youtu.be/_em9GZEXAW4[/video]

 

[paccity]

[video=youtube;uc7NnKLyB-U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uc7NnKLyB-U#t=28[/video]

 

[paccity]

sometimes you just dump the stick shovel it up and use a stroker to knot and buck and stack.

 

[twochains]

Thanks for the videos! I watched both of them..those operators didn't just start last week huh? :msp_thumbup:

Pac, at the end of your video you posted a video was in the suggestion box called "Shoveling on the Edge"....Holy Shat! I'm gonna try and find it again and post it...and tell me if you ever cut on this grade...it's nearly vertical! Gonna look for it.

 

[twochains]

Evening fellas! Hows it going!

 

[treeslayer2003]

Evening fellas! Hows it going!

evenin Clint. hey those machines have an impressive swing.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Pac, who are the Kentucky boys?

 

[paccity]

Pac, who are the Kentucky boys?

don't know.

 

[JakeG]

Nice pics and videos.. Thanks!

It's goin good here. Found an 8 foot section of base boards and carpet that are soaking wet.. Time to go in the attic

How was yalls day?

 

[treeslayer2003]

Nice pics and videos.. Thanks!

It's goin good here. Found an 8 foot section of base boards and carpet that are soaking wet.. Time to go in the attic

How was yalls day?

rainin there too huh? been rainin here since wed. I got some seepage too.

 

[HuskStihl]

Just about to put the babies to bed and get some peace and quiet. Saw some amazing river cypress today. Codominant and tri?dominant stems, all out of an amazing root structure. Get 100 yards from the river and mostly scrub. Saw some really big pecan trees as well. Of course, I'm mapping out the lay in my mind:biggrin:

 

[HuskStihl]

Nice pics and videos.. Thanks!

It's goin good here. Found an 8 foot section of base boards and carpet that are soaking wet.. Time to go in the attic

How was yalls day?

rainin there too huh? been rainin here since wed. I got some seepage too.

I hate that. I've never owned a house that didn't leak somewhere.

 

[treeslayer2003]

Rob not here or there, he musta packed up the puter. happy moving Rob.

 

[northmanlogging]

Thanks NM...yeh, i'm not used to any of that type machinery or the names of it. I see your alls pictures, but that is about all I know about it. So hats a shovel...well what is a forwarder? It's like what bitzer uses isn't it? Like a skidder with knuckleboom and a trailer behind it?

Any who...hey NM, did ya get a bunch of timber down today? I had a pretty good day of it, rained on me this morning but got near 80* this afternoon.

No cutting for me, all out of wood until the foreseeable future... got a few yard trees to work on and what not but no logging for a while now.


With a set of drums on a shovel that would make it a yoder then would it not, then you could set it up like a yarder and still load and sort logs all with one machine... some day I might have one... some day...

By the way these shovel machines are ####ing huge... where talking lowboy chaser trucks and oversize load permit big...

Not a prentice or olympic loader bolted to an old beat up mack truck...

 

[twochains]

Nice pics and videos.. Thanks!

It's goin good here. Found an 8 foot section of base boards and carpet that are soaking wet.. Time to go in the attic

How was yalls day?

Hey there Jake!