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What pisses me off? LOGGERS! Loggers and their damn wedges. Eyup, shore does. Here I come out the tree leaving a nice rope up there, got the truck over there, loader's over here and what do they do? Why they whip out some old ass axe and some wedges and start a-poundin and a-poundin and a -cutting and a cutting then a little more pounding, then a little more cutting then some more pounding...

I am tired just watching. And what's worse is when they try to get me involved in their shenanigans having me pull on the rope like its going to help. Me? Pull the tree over? Why that's just as bad as the wedges! Oh lord have mercy!

Now I can understand how cool it is to whip out that axe from that neat little harness you got for it and the wedges and all. Hell, I guess its cool just to own an axe BUT PLEASE, a little less testosterone and a little more horsepower is all that is needed.

Had a guy the other day wedging over a beech. I was going numb holding onto the 5 to 1 and he was playing Picasso over there for about an hour and a half! Finally he gets into the hinge wood, about a 1/4 inch for beech. I already knew that, I guess , now, so does he.

I am just messing with you though sometimes it gets exasperating.
 
DR. P. Proteus said:
What pisses me off? LOGGERS! Loggers and their damn wedges. Eyup, shore does. Here I come out the tree leaving a nice rope up there, got the truck over there, loader's over here and what do they do? Why they whip out some old ass axe and some wedges and start a-poundin and a-poundin and a -cutting and a cutting then a little more pounding, then a little more cutting then some more pounding...

I am tired just watching. And what's worse is when they try to get me involved in their shenanigans having me pull on the rope like its going to help. Me? Pull the tree over? Why that's just as bad as the wedges! Oh lord have mercy!

Now I can understand how cool it is to whip out that axe from that neat little harness you got for it and the wedges and all. Hell, I guess its cool just to own an axe BUT PLEASE, a little less testosterone and a little more horsepower is all that is needed.

Had a guy the other day wedging over a beech. I was going numb holding onto the 5 to 1 and he was playing Picasso over there for about an hour and a half! Finally he gets into the hinge wood, about a 1/4 inch for beech. I already knew that, I guess , now, so does he.

I am just messing with you though sometimes it gets exasperating.
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A logger using a rope to pull over a tree? You must be in hardwood country, aka east of the Rockies, aka land of the sheep farmers.
 
you can cable some up but 99.9% of the time why. wedges are a great tool. learn how to use them. just sayin.
 
rigged 4 today, using cable, ropes break, cable doesn't. (all near houses, power lines, roads...)

Should remember to make a vid of the nasty one next week,

Takes 1-2 hours to rig one to pull it over, unless its little and then I don't mess with it.

Where a wedge or a jack can have it on the ground and making smaller pieces in about 10 minutes max, unless its a stubborn bastard, then it could take longer.
 
should try some 3/4 bull . if your not dragging dirty they will pull over and around most anything . i don't mind steel but rope is easier for me to pack around doing yard trees.
 
We sometimes use 5/8's or 3/4 on the more arboristy smalller stuff I get suckered into helping on, but I don't mind dragging a little cable around when the butt of the tree is 3' or better. That and hooking one end to a 20k winch and tightening it up is sure fire way to test your splices and whether or not you think that rope is looking a little frayed.:laugh:
 
DR. P. Proteus said:
What pisses me off? LOGGERS! Loggers and their damn wedges. Eyup, shore does. Here I come out the tree leaving a nice rope up there, got the truck over there, loader's over here and what do they do? Why they whip out some old ass axe and some wedges and start a-poundin and a-poundin and a -cutting and a cutting then a little more pounding, then a little more cutting then some more pounding...

I am tired just watching. And what's worse is when they try to get me involved in their shenanigans having me pull on the rope like its going to help. Me? Pull the tree over? Why that's just as bad as the wedges! Oh lord have mercy!

Now I can understand how cool it is to whip out that axe from that neat little harness you got for it and the wedges and all. Hell, I guess its cool just to own an axe BUT PLEASE, a little less testosterone and a little more horsepower is all that is needed.

Had a guy the other day wedging over a beech. I was going numb holding onto the 5 to 1 and he was playing Picasso over there for about an hour and a half! Finally he gets into the hinge wood, about a 1/4 inch for beech. I already knew that, I guess , now, so does he.

I am just messing with you though sometimes it gets exasperating.
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Clearly you've never spent any time production timber falling. My guess is you have little time with a saw in your hands in the first place. Timber Fallers don't pull trees. Unless there is a pretty damn good reason, most loggers don't either.

We don't pull em with ropes here either 2dogs! We can still log on gov't land here too. Our governor is also pushing for more and bigger harvests. We are doin something right here. We've got a lot more cows than sheep. Probably more pigs too.
 
Haha. Got you guys all worked up! So easy! Now you can add Residential Arborist to the list of things that piss you off.

What I described above were cases of loggers hiring me to help them do residential work. I am aware you guys are not going to set ropes, it would be about impossible though fun to watch. Hell, its probably a good show watching me set a rope, its a ***** BUT as us high faluntin arborist go we do set the ropes and just pull the damn things over.

I really was just messing with you though the stories were true.
 
ya i do yard trees , and some time i rigg a tree and pull , but but most of the time if i can get out of it i do . good ol piece of plastic and some swings it's all good. and less work. yard trees are easy money.
 
DR. P. Proteus said:
Haha. Got you guys all worked up! So easy! Now you can add Residential Arborist to the list of things that piss you off.

What I described above were cases of loggers hiring me to help them do residential work. I am aware you guys are not going to set ropes, it would be about impossible though fun to watch. Hell, its probably a good show watching me set a rope, its a ***** BUT as us high faluntin arborist go we do set the ropes and just pull the damn things over.

I really was just messing with you though the stories were true.
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I wasn't worked up. What you said was just ****ing stupid. Clearly you don't have the skill set to fall trees without the aid of ropes and other mechanical devices. Its ok. Most arborists have problems with that also. Its just idiotic to come into the logging forum with this crap. It would be the same if I went into an arb forum and said why do you idiots use a rope to pull a tree over? You don't have the skills to really fall timber? All that screwin around with a rope I would have had the tree on the ground already with wedges or a jack. It takes a lot to piss me off. Your post was just silly. I read another post of yours in the injury form. Its about on par with this one.
 
bitzer said:
I wasn't worked up. What you said was just ****ing stupid. Clearly you don't have the skill set to fall trees without the aid of ropes and other mechanical devices. Its ok. Most arborists have problems with that also. Its just idiotic to come into the logging forum with this crap. It would be the same if I went into an arb forum and said why do you idiots use a rope to pull a tree over? You don't have the skills to really fall timber? All that screwin around with a rope I would have had the tree on the ground already with wedges or a jack. It takes a lot to piss me off. Your post was just silly. I read another post of yours in the injury form. Its about on par with this one.
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Well, what I said was based on experience, I mean, no one can deny that as it would be like trying to deny that your not upset over what I said. No, I won't ever try to fell a tree by the septic and the house and the neighbor's using wedges. Its all well and good, no harm, I was just messing you all in reality, yes silly. About as silly as that dude was working himself into a froth pounding them wedges while I was exhausting myself holding the 5 to 1. And Hey! If you can fell a tree with wedges, Damn, that is impressive! Really! I don't have the stomach for it.

I knew better than to come here and start messing with you ornery old loggers, just couldn't help it! All the arborists are getting used to me, they just patronize me by now. But you also have to admit the stories I told had to be amusing.
 
DR. P. Proteus said:
Well, what I said was based on experience, I mean, no one can deny that as it would be like trying to deny that your not upset over what I said. No, I won't ever try to fell a tree by the septic and the house and the neighbor's using wedges. Its all well and good, no harm, I was just messing you all in reality, yes silly. About as silly as that dude was working himself into a froth pounding them wedges while I was exhausting myself holding the 5 to 1. And Hey! If you can fell a tree with wedges, Damn, that is impressive! Really! I don't have the stomach for it.

I knew better than to come here and start messing with you ornery old loggers, just couldn't help it! All the arborists are getting used to me, they just patronize me by now. But you also have to admit the stories I told had to be amusing.
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Your stories aren't amusing, they are like a 12 year old boy trolling. Here's an overposted wedging video I made. It was the last tree of the day and I think the two guys were using this tree for a lesson in wedging. The tree had a lean to the paved road. The logging equipment was a half mile away--fallers work ahead of the skidding/yarding here. The guy you'll hear talking said he could probably get it off the road using his pickup. He's a retired old growth faller who was flagging traffic for them. They chose to work it around with wedges.

 
slowp said:
Your stories aren't amusing, they are like a 12 year old boy trolling. Here's an overposted wedging video I made. It was the last tree of the day and I think the two guys were using this tree for a lesson in wedging. The tree had a lean to the paved road. The logging equipment was a half mile away--fallers work ahead of the skidding/yarding here. The guy you'll hear talking said he could probably get it off the road using his pickup. He's a retired old growth faller who was flagging traffic for them. They chose to work it around with wedges.

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Well like my stories or not they are true. Its OK to laugh, no one is going to think you less of a man if you do. And I am sorry for imposing my pathetic humor on you loggers. I will go back to the arbos. and never come back.

And whoever was on that video and said ," should we get ready to run" probably knows what I am talking about huh? Yeah right, a guy to trust just a wedge falling a tree is bound to send a few off center. HAHAHa! Yeah Right! Wedges! Keep em in the woods!

" should we walk over there now?" that's precious!
 
Timber falling and residential removals are like two different trades. Having done both, my techniques and mind set are determined by the situation I'm in. Why use a rope in the woods and why risk wedging a tree when its back leaning towards a 500,000 dollar house when you have the proper tools to adjust to either situation?
 
DR. P. Proteus said:
Well, what I said was based on experience, I mean, no one can deny that as it would be like trying to deny that your not upset over what I said. No, I won't ever try to fell a tree by the septic and the house and the neighbor's using wedges. Its all well and good, no harm, I was just messing you all in reality, yes silly. About as silly as that dude was working himself into a froth pounding them wedges while I was exhausting myself holding the 5 to 1. And Hey! If you can fell a tree with wedges, Damn, that is impressive! Really! I don't have the stomach for it.

I knew better than to come here and start messing with you ornery old loggers, just couldn't help it! All the arborists are getting used to me, they just patronize me by now. But you also have to admit the stories I told had to be amusing.
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I'm not upset, it was just stupid what you said. I could give a **** about guys like you. Its for the people who read these forums that never post, but take in all that they can that I had to clear the air for. There is just no place for ankle biters like you around here.
 

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