Scrounging Firewood (and other stuff)

[benp]

I've talked to a few people from upstate New York and they were quick to say it is greatly different from New York City, more of a reason to take interest in the north. LOL Thanks for the recommendations. I'm taking notes.

Upstate New York reminds me of where I live in Northern MN. It's gorgeous.

Well after using @MustangMike 's saws equipped with square filed chain I took the plunge and ordered a loop for each of my main saws. Also got a file and a great deal on a bar for my 2186 from Bailey's. Hope they arrive by Friday so I can test them out at the gtg this weekend.

Not messing around are you.

A new bar? I thought you got the 28" Windsor?

Square file & Round (full chisel) have the same tooth, but it is ground differently. You can convert round to square, and vice versa, but you had better have a machine grinder, it is a lot of work. A square file is really a six sided file, but is is not a hexagon, and it is not round.

With both round & square you have to pay attention to your filing angles, but with square, you also have to ensure the corner of the file remains in the corner of the tooth, so a proper stroke is very important. Once you get used to square, I think it is as easy as filing round by hand, but a lot of people have trouble getting used to it.

Also, square is generally filed from the outside in, and round generally from the inside out, but I have seen these rules broken both both camps.

Madsen's website has a lot of information on it.

Mike, are you able to file the chain while it is still on the bar or do you need to take it off and put it in some sort of vise?

Thanks for the info.

 

[svk]

Ben, yes I got the 28 for big stuff but wanted a shorter bar for everyday cutting so I picked up a 20" from baileys. The only 009 bar I had was an 18" in .058 which precluded me from running factory made square file (only offered in .050 and .063) and converting round to square is well above my grade at this point.

And besides the 18" was ridiculously short on the 2186.

 

[benp]

I have a d009 mount 24" I would of hooked you up with.

I don't use it since i threw the 28" on the red dolmar.

 

[JustJeff]

Ooh, I want a 24 for my 365. I'll just head over to MN and pick it up! Lol.

 

[Bullvi22]

Since we're on the topic of bars, I came to a conclusion today; while a 16" bar may be near impossible to bog on my 310, a 20" bar is a lot more useful. Got an 18" log to noodle? Two cuts on the 16, one easy one on the 20, plus you dont have to bend over as far for delimbing and whatnot. What's my point? Nothing really, other than I bought the 16" bar after reading on this site, and I was impressed with how well the 59cc saw cut with it, but the first time I was stuck with only that bar, I realized its limitations real fast. Just nice to have formed an opinion of my own I suppose.

That is all, carry on!

 

[MustangMike]

I like the 20" best for general purpose stuff myself, came to that conclusion a long time ago.

I like to sharpen the square file on the saw, and usually use a stump vice. When sharpening round, I lock the bar and do 3 or 4 teeth on each side at a time, the unlock and mover the chain, repeat, usually about 4 times till done. With square, I do all the cutters on one side, then all on the other. I move each cutter to the same spot to keep my geometry to the cutter the same.

 

[MuskokaSplitter]

i really like using a 24" on my 044 only cause i have them big dawgs on it lol. otherwise id have a 20" on it.

i do all my chains in a bench grinder. only exception is my milling chain ill touch that up every slab by hand.

 

[mainewoods]

Pretty quiet lately, everyone must be out scrounging up extra Polar Vortex firewood. The very dry conditions up here seems to have brought down a lot of stressed trees this summer. Plenty of wood available and perfect cutting conditions. I wish you all had this "problem"!

 

[svk]

Pretty quiet lately, everyone must be out scrounging up extra Polar Vortex firewood. The very dry conditions up here seems to have brought down a lot of stressed trees this summer. Plenty of wood available and perfect cutting conditions. I wish you all had this "problem"!

Haven't been in the woods much lately but to your point I see the bronze birch borer is doing a lot of damage locally.

 

[dancan]

I noticed that up here to Clint but we've had a great summer , my lawn didn't go dormant this year due to lack of moisture but trees that I couldn't cut last year now fall within my permit guidelines lol

 

[dancan]

Still in the 80's up here , crazy weather .

 

[svk]

Power company tree service finally showed up after sitting on the work order for a full year. I now have 8 cords of this stuff laid out around my right of ways. Should keep me busy for a while. Thankfully some of it even has a solid core!

 

[USMC615]

Power company tree service finally showed up after sitting on the work order for a full year. I now have 8 cords of this stuff laid out around my right of ways. Should keep me busy for a while. Thankfully some of it even has a solid core!
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Nice load of wood ya got coming up...the changing color leaf pattern in the top left, first pic looks like a sweet gum? Maple? No leaf change here yet, way too early, but I bet in you folks cooler climates the leaf change is certainly happenin.

 

[svk]

Nice load of wood ya got coming up...the changing color leaf pattern in the top left, first pic looks like a sweet gum? Maple? No leaf change here yet, way too early, but I bet in you folks cooler climates the leaf change is certainly happenin.

It's red maple. Lots of red maple and black ash near full color already. Aspen takes a few more weeks.

 

[USMC615]

It's red maple. Lots of red maple and black ash are near full color already. Aspen takes a few more weeks.

Nice...would love to visit the north for a vacation during fall time, and bring a damn good camera with good lenses, and snap pic after pic. I can only imagine how nice the trees look with a lake shot splittin the pics. Maybe one day/one year coming up. And do some good fishin.

 

[svk]

Nice...would love to visit the north for a vacation during fall time, and bring a damn good camera with good lenses, and snap pic after pic. I can only imagine how nice the trees look with a lake shot splittin the pics. Maybe one day/one year coming up. And do some good fishin.

Like I told you before my door is open. Kinda the opposite of "don't move here" lol.

 

[USMC615]

Like I told you before my door is open. Kinda the opposite of "don't move here" lol.

I hear ya bro.

 

[svk]

I think Chucker and I are going to do a little bird hunting and wood cutting in late October. Going to try and snag benp into coming too. You could join us.

 

[USMC615]

I think Chucker and I are going to do a little bird hunting and wood cutting in late October. Going to try and snag benp into coming too. You could join us.

If you can narrow down specific dates, I can see what I can do. In DoD, ya gotta submit your leave planner by end of Jan each year, for that current year, but it can certainly be altered. We do a lot of dove and quail huntin here...would love to get up there and bust some birds with you guys, regardless of bird type.

 

[svk]

I'm going to figure out my "hunting schedule" this coming week. Will be in touch.