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woodchipper95
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Gypo Logger
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Brian, is Butch mentoring you now? Lol
Trx250r180
Saw polisher
Was talking about Brush Ape sir ,not Butch ,i never got to see the end of his chain sharpening stand he crafted up ,it was a pretty slick setup ,he actually had a lot of good information,was pretty good making stuff out of his milled wood also ,but the haters ran him off .
Have not seen Butch for a while now ,my log in does not work on his site anymore ,so hard to talk to him at all .
bnmc98
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All I can say is WOW WOW. Don't sweat two points for that. I remember when the FS taught me saw safety. You put the brake on every time you move. When I first got started in production falling I would do that. Until the logger that was training me said "if you keep doing that I will go crazy, knock that FS crap off" I stopped and have never worried about it since. Time waster. Not any safer either. Fear based. The saws have trigger safety's. and its not going to kick back while you are walking unless you hold it out in front of you while you are walking and are pulling the throttle and shove it into something. Maybe someone does that, but not me.
Insurance and liability dictate a lot of safety procedures in my opinion (not safety).
Nice stump btw. I get one that looks like that maybe 1 time a year
BA isn't coming back unless he goes directly to Darin and somehow convinces him to get a 100th second chance.
You guys didn't see the bad stuff he put up because it was cleaned up before very many saw it.
I got an Arbutus I need to remove thats cranked over my budies shead on a hill.I cleaned up around it the other day and its about last to go.
I just arrived and will deal with it.
There is a few ways to handle it that I can be 100% damage free.
It's very heavy wood and grows on angles naturally. They are now just protected on the Island as there is a thin vein of them on east coast of South end of the island.
Just came to mind??
Thinking I'll take a pic for our scentless apprentice and see what he can come up with...without climbing gear its actually an interesting one.
Lots of variables as you will see
If it was about any other species I could be 100% that the top at least would stay sidehill above another tree but they start to fall and gravity sucks them hard. I'm sure with a "Johnny hold me tight" and to place the cut ...You know we're...(not to help the apprentice at this time) but I can't be sure 100%. Dam sure but that's not good enough. I did just finish a month contract Falling for properties in Victoria and it did have this bendy Arbutus all through the fir
and cedar. I tried to keep in lay so I didn't have to go down rocky drops to buck and limb for 20' containers. I didn't waist time walking up and dropping them in 30 sec. (Cuts like butter) Ican always process a few bitcky ones when the hoe puts 'em aside as I have a saw down there to limb out my forth side and such a few times a day. Obviously it isn't a spesies I have tested with anything but three precise cuts. Inexperienced basically with that timber type. Payed enough tention only to not try and do a straight fall.
I will write more on the particulars
with a pic In a bit. I set a ***** springboard in it the other day so I could reach up and get some wait of of it. They fork out and don't get very big. This is probably medium to what I have ever seen here.
180° off the lean is a fence about 30' high side. See what all you guys think when all info is in and after young guns has a shot before we haze him more...lol
Congratulations young guns..looks like you got some skills...now of course is is the painfull part. This is where I crush you like a bug and point grade your work on what you have shared thus far through BC Fallers Training standards.
Do you have a pic of the wedge? did they mesure it? I'll grade your stump to see if it meets standards. I can scale it of the pic
You got skills...great job
..now the 'hard part.
Please help out with the tree problem and I'll post pic in a minute
I just arrived and will deal with it.
There is a few ways to handle it that I can be 100% damage free.
It's very heavy wood and grows on angles naturally. They are now just protected on the Island as there is a thin vein of them on east coast of South end of the island.
Just came to mind??
Thinking I'll take a pic for our scentless apprentice and see what he can come up with...without climbing gear its actually an interesting one.
Lots of variables as you will see
If it was about any other species I could be 100% that the top at least would stay sidehill above another tree but they start to fall and gravity sucks them hard. I'm sure with a "Johnny hold me tight" and to place the cut ...You know we're...(not to help the apprentice at this time) but I can't be sure 100%. Dam sure but that's not good enough. I did just finish a month contract Falling for properties in Victoria and it did have this bendy Arbutus all through the fir
and cedar. I tried to keep in lay so I didn't have to go down rocky drops to buck and limb for 20' containers. I didn't waist time walking up and dropping them in 30 sec. (Cuts like butter) Ican always process a few bitcky ones when the hoe puts 'em aside as I have a saw down there to limb out my forth side and such a few times a day. Obviously it isn't a spesies I have tested with anything but three precise cuts. Inexperienced basically with that timber type. Payed enough tention only to not try and do a straight fall.
I will write more on the particulars
with a pic In a bit. I set a ***** springboard in it the other day so I could reach up and get some wait of of it. They fork out and don't get very big. This is probably medium to what I have ever seen here.
180° off the lean is a fence about 30' high side. See what all you guys think when all info is in and after young guns has a shot before we haze him more...lol
Congratulations young guns..looks like you got some skills...now of course is is the painfull part. This is where I crush you like a bug and point grade your work on what you have shared thus far through BC Fallers Training standards.
Do you have a pic of the wedge? did they mesure it? I'll grade your stump to see if it meets standards. I can scale it of the pic
You got skills...great job
..now the 'hard part.
Please help out with the tree problem and I'll post pic in a minute
Its an inside joke... something about a bar fight and rubbish bins...
Chain brakes are a little overrated for safety... if the idle is set right, you learn to keep yer hands off the throttle and always remember where that bar is nothing to worry about. The brake is a life safer when it comes to kick back though... and if you ever find yourself climbing a tree and limbing as you go, then the chain brake is kinda nice... or any awkward postion, or handing a saw off to another guy... or whatever...
Personally I hardly ever use em... mostly they get set when the saw lands heavy on some thing and irritates me, or when someone else has been using my saws... which is rare, they like to set the brake when its not running? (though chances are they are just messing with me)
treeslayer2003
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svk, i thought you was MFM untill the last post lol.
all BS aside, the young man is doing well and i take nothing from him.........but, what he don't realize is that he is no farther along than most of us at his age. and he dosen't get the respect of a man 3 times his age yet. not that he gets disrespect either.
also chipper, since you seem to want to learn, GOL is not the only way to fall a tree, nor is it always best. i don't want you to think that since you took this course that you now know whats up and can't get hurt.
all BS aside, the young man is doing well and i take nothing from him.........but, what he don't realize is that he is no farther along than most of us at his age. and he dosen't get the respect of a man 3 times his age yet. not that he gets disrespect either.
also chipper, since you seem to want to learn, GOL is not the only way to fall a tree, nor is it always best. i don't want you to think that since you took this course that you now know whats up and can't get hurt.
Define trolling please. It seems like anything not favorable to you is labeled trolling. Really. A definition is needed. Did you read the rest of my post? It was right on topic although you wouldn't ever agree with it.
Now, to NORTHMAN. Did you see that when I set the brake on my saw, it saved an idiot from getting his hand cut off when he went to grab my bar on my running saw?
I think that makes my habit of setting it so much worthwhile. It's a habit. I have no idea and don't want to find out, what kind of mess we would have had. Ick. Maybe
the GOL guy would have been quick with his axe handle and prevented the carnage. I'm glad we didn't have to find out.
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Lol, was meaning your avatar.
I tried to join the treehousers, but Butch wouldn't let me join.
I guess he doesn't want any culls over there. Lol
K ..I don't see a compression mark in the undercut so generally it would make a mark even if it was adequate. No mark says you got a big mouth...lol. *credited ..a perfect stump is 15 points, 12 is the lowest that is exceptable with WCB of BC standards. I can't tell if back cut is flat..?? Looks like it. If you can roll a pen down it then its no good. We will credit you anyway.
Even holding wood across...good.
Even step....this one is hard to due as it needs to be 1/4 or better from one side to the other...yours looks in there.
For Cottonwood the preferred undercut is a pie or birds mouth. So I point deduction
That's a good step height for a humbult but they want a two inch step on conventional so now it's its a 13/15
Which is good all day long.
No Dutchman...Blind Dutchman???? That's a bypass cut and the flat stop will be an the butt.
Looks like you cleaned the undercut so we will call it three precise cuts.
Under cut depth needs to be 33% and 25% on a wedged tree and UP TO 25% on heavy leaner OR whatever it will take...there is some wiggle room 25% - 43% and
and wedged is 23% to 28%
Even on a wedge tree which its not... you need 23% and your UC is stretching 20% ..unfortunately this one was an automatic failed stump.
Lots of promise man.
You got 98% today
Awesome
treeslayer2003
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boaster, i'm pretty sure they preach super shallow face in that GOL class.......n they don't back cut, they cut out toward the back.
woodchipper95
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I do not have a picture of my wedge but they call it an "open face" I come down almost parallel with the trunk, then meet that with a slightly upward angle cut. I then plunge about a half inch higher than my wedge. I start my plunge about 2-3 inches back from my final hinge thickness. I then set my hinge and out the back I go. If I use a wedge or have a tree that is to big for a single plunge... I plunge a smidge over half the diameter of the tree place my wedge give it a good few wacks, then plunge the other side meeting my plunge meeting my original and out the back I go...
woodchipper95
ArboristSite Guru
Correct that is what I did. Its a pretty nice fell... once you get the plunge technique down.
@treeslayer2003
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woodchipper95
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Kid you not, my saw was in my plunge, just wanted to verify my hing thickness on the far side and he reached in and put my chain beak on..... "-2"
ok...98% today, I can't grade him seriously on...BC $hit.
Pictures now
K.....you got a fence20' up on the highside.
You got a bottle jack wedges rope a truck you can pull from over the fence but the tree is 40' long and fence is 20' away you can free fall but the tree top needs to be about a ft higher up the bank than it's stump you see.
The little fir tree is straight up and down so you got a good idea of the lean. The tree is on a edge of a drop above the shead about eight ft away. what you going to do
???call a friend...lol
You got a bottle jack wedges rope a truck you can pull from over the fence but the tree is 40' long and fence is 20' away you can free fall but the tree top needs to be about a ft higher up the bank than it's stump you see.
The little fir tree is straight up and down so you got a good idea of the lean. The tree is on a edge of a drop above the shead about eight ft away. what you going to do
???call a friend...lol
They had you cut just one tree? Too bad they couldn't have had you cut several.
