woodchipper95
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bitzer
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Whats with the axe marks on the stump? Wedges are what you use to tip the tree over by pounding them in. You face the tree where you want it to go. The thing about that style of cutting is you are not reading what the tree is doing. Its a starting point. Kind of a prologue. If you want to learn to manipulate and control your tree thats a bigger part of the story. Gol is kind of like having yer training wheels on.
It's mostly fixed. Turned out I sheared a woodruff key rather than busting a crank. It slips from time to time but it's a 2 minute fix when it happens. I'll get a new one when it occurs to me.
SliverPicker
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Good job Chipper. Keep learning and keep refining your technique. Get tunnel vision and focus on where you want to be not where you are or where you've been. Filter out everything else. Prepare to "replan" when necessary. Focus on a goal.
KEEP AN OPENED MIND. Insight can come from the most unlikely sources.
There's a metric shite ton of knowledge on this site. Take advantage whenever you can.
Be relentless and believe in yourself.
Nothing worthwhile is easy and nothing worthwhile is free.
OK. I'm off of my soapbox.
Good job so far.
Get 'er done, son.
KEEP AN OPENED MIND. Insight can come from the most unlikely sources.
There's a metric shite ton of knowledge on this site. Take advantage whenever you can.
Be relentless and believe in yourself.
Nothing worthwhile is easy and nothing worthwhile is free.
OK. I'm off of my soapbox.
Good job so far.
Get 'er done, son.
SliverPicker
ArboristSite Guru
No, its not just you.
I hope I never fall into that trap, but I tend to refine may ways in tiny steps so from the outside it may seem that I am stuck in my ways a bit too much.
woodchipper95
ArboristSite Guru
My stump was the first so people stuck their axe in it a few times haha. I know how to use wedges..................... none were used on this tree..............
So you missed your chain brake while checking your corner...that sucks..close
Do they make you go around the back ?
The tree is dead, I did it tonight. do you want to suggest how you would have approached it?? Or let these guys comment on it?..its all good either way??????
Do they make you go around the back ?
The tree is dead, I did it tonight. do you want to suggest how you would have approached it?? Or let these guys comment on it?..its all good either way??????
One more time for the folks in the class not paying attention: GOL training is a very solid basic introduction to how to put a tree down safely. It is neither a production method, nor the only way to cut trees, and should be regarded as only one of the many tools in the box for all of the many kinds of problems and situations that come up while cutting. Woodchipper95: good on you for making a nice stump. Keep doing that. Learn from your mistakes, and also from the rest of our mistakes as we post them here and talk about them. I very seldom screw something up without posting it here for critique and analysis, and I never fail to learn something from the effort. I also pass this learning on to my crews every year in the form of "Well, here's how I screwed this thing up the last time I tried it, don't do what I did".
woodchipper95
ArboristSite Guru
Hard to tell from the pictures, looks pretty screwy thats for sure... I couldn't even begin to tell you how I would cut it, without being there in person.
Gypo Logger
Timber Baron
Yes! Arbutus, a real sexy tree. The natives called it Naked Lady. Arbutus is the only broad leaf evergreen, that not only sheds it's bark, but also flowers in the spring. It is a protected species in some parts and is also known as Texas Madrone.
Like alder, it corkscrews to the sky, and is a thing of beauty when seen in a pure stand.
Madrone...that's right. It died. They are protected here but they all needed to die because its will need to get subdivide one day.
Yup, too large of a class size. They really need to shrink it down and go for quality instead of quantity.
treeslayer2003
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Nate i had one do that. the fix is simple, valve lapping compound. put some in the fly wheel socket and rock it back n forth a bit until it feels smooth, then clean it off with carb cleaner. use a new key and snug it up good.
see the key only indexes the wheel to the shaft, its the friction that locks it there. your wheel wore a little bit when it happened and now don't quite fit exact. the compound fix only takes a few minutes.
K...Slayerman
What do you think you might do to get the Arbutus down with out climing gear.With the info I provided in post before and after the pics?
I realize you are not there but plausable possibilitys? It can only land in one direction but its a few feet swing up hill to clear the cedar to lock in the top.The butt can still spring off the bank and destroy the shed. I will say it didn't go to plan last night. and will share more.
treeslayer2003
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so hard to say with out being there......and i don't know that wood. with out knowing, probably would block out the holding side for more flex and snipe the top to hold to the stump longer. looked like alot of lean........
i try like hell to not be foolin around with yard trees. i guess ideally, if i had to.......long 3/4 cable and a skidder, cripple it up and break it off with the skidder
you did ask how i would bro lol.
my typical falling, if i do mess up and the stick don't follow lay, worst i have to do is clean up sticks from an smz or alter my skid trail.
sure hope you ain't gonna be workin on a shed next week.........
i try like hell to not be foolin around with yard trees. i guess ideally, if i had to.......long 3/4 cable and a skidder, cripple it up and break it off with the skidder
you did ask how i would bro lol.my typical falling, if i do mess up and the stick don't follow lay, worst i have to do is clean up sticks from an smz or alter my skid trail.
sure hope you ain't gonna be workin on a shed next week.........
treeslayer2003
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curious, you boys on the other side, how do you deal with splity wood that leans hard? compression wood elimination by gutting or very deep face is normally my way.
Alders is our splitty wood... like beech I guess?
for falling with the lean, make as deep a face as you can, which isn't much, then coos em, would be my preffered
For side lean, I'll face em normal, maybe put in a swiz, depending on how hard of a lean, then usually just pound through the back side, A good sharp chain on a medium alder its almost too easy...
For back leaners, yer pretty much looking at rigging and pulling, alders lean hard regardless of which way, its rare to find one with less then 5 deg of lean, normally you'de be looking at 10-20 deg of lean.
Generally speaking though, a triangle coos gets it done.
for falling with the lean, make as deep a face as you can, which isn't much, then coos em, would be my preffered
For side lean, I'll face em normal, maybe put in a swiz, depending on how hard of a lean, then usually just pound through the back side, A good sharp chain on a medium alder its almost too easy...
For back leaners, yer pretty much looking at rigging and pulling, alders lean hard regardless of which way, its rare to find one with less then 5 deg of lean, normally you'de be looking at 10-20 deg of lean.
Generally speaking though, a triangle coos gets it done.
SliverPicker
ArboristSite Guru
Not much splintery here unless its green and really leaning hard. I almost always just gut 'em out. If they are about 8" or smaller I usually put in a normal face and then cut fast from the back.
Yup... little dancing bear for ya
SliverPicker
ArboristSite Guru
Northy, I am betting you are tempted most of the time to just cut one handed, aren't you?
