because knowledge...
One thing to think about though, these positions are highly political and require a great deal of people skills, political finesse, and soliciting cooperation from private industry executives, landowner associations, special interest groups, etc.because knowledge...
So, this lady sent a letter, warning that a forest may, or may not have been spiked (it wasn't btw) means ya all think she should be disqualified for a role in regulating federal lands?
While yeah being associated with "earth first" is a ding in her standing, I'd hesitate to say its damning evidence. Note: the article does not go on to mention her current opinions to managed federal resources.
I'm mostly being devils advocate here. Jumping to conclusions over some half understood article, that doesn't cover the entire story, is a slippery path.
while trueOne thing to think about though, these positions are highly political and require a great deal of people skills, political finesse, and soliciting cooperation from private industry executives, landowner associations, special interest groups, etc.
A candidate with potential ties to extremist groups may get into the position, and then be largely ineffective because no one wants to deal with them or they lack the credibility to make things happen. Clinton found that out with some of
his appointees, as did Trump. Of course, a lot of people in Washington these days are extreme one way or the other.
Thank you Sir for your insightful post. Surely there is someone out there with impeccable character & knowledge as to how to run this agency without the baggage. Robert Abbey was Obama’s BLM director & he is on record saying she should not be confirmed.I'll just throw in my experience of political nominees and choices. Considering her background, positions and opinions from her past, are you telling me there isn't anyone anywhere out there that can do the job and ISN'T connected to some terrorist group or someone thats just as qualified that ISN'T negative toward land use?
Gotta be someone out there. If she gets the nod, you really have to dig deep and wonder why. Who is it exactly that she's connected to and what's their gain? Even the most out there ideas of collaborations usually are true.
Again, its easy to toss allegations, claiming you've done a bunch of research, the article that was posted, didn't mention any convictions for tree spiking, and I don't remember anyone ever being convicted of it (not to say no one did, I just don't remember any).I’m blown away that any logger or person in the timber industry or beef producer or rural person in the West would not be up in arms over this woman. I have researched her extensively. People who know range management know that when you don’t graze land you get unusable land, don’t mow your lawn for a year or two & see what you have. Look at her history & her own words! We cut a large blm job in 2005 ( Columbia Helicopters) north of Shady Cove, Or. It was bid in 97 and Rough and Ready bought it, automatically tied up in litigation by so called environmentalists, it was full of way past prime Doug and white fir full of white speck, we left as much big timber on the ground as got flown to the landing. I’m sure this was a huge money loser for timber company. The BLM needs to be headed by someone that is f-ing non political that knows rangeland management and timber management. There are way better nominees out there than this woman period! I feel like I should be arguing this in a Cal Berkeley college paper & not with people in the PNW who know about forest and rangeland health!! WTF!!!!!!!! As for the tree spiking Northman said (didn’t happen by the way) why were two people convicted and sent to jail for not spiking trees? She got caught mailing the letter then flipped on her fellow eco terrrorists to save her own ass.
Right, and she was given immunity from prosecution to squeal on her fellow conspirator. She was the one that wrote the damn threatening paper, that in itself constituted a crime. She also lied to congress under oath which is another crime. Her whole life has been one big self-serving lie. We can't blame Sleepy Joe for this, he don't even know what day it is, what left wing bunch that is running the country has their fingerprints all over it.She is all the things I said and there were most definitely convictions.
Let me see, you don't like it because people spiked trees, but then you don't like it that she let folks know that trees were spiked. I don't understand your logic process. Oh, and I have run a metal detector after 100+ trees were meticulously spiked. The suspect lived across the road and had all winter to do it. The nail heads were cut off to make them harder to see and pull out. He was on a mission. He was a drunkard who just didn't want the trees cut across the road from his shack. Evidence was never found to arrest him, but he had told me a couple of times that I'd better be careful when in that unit because something could happen to me. That made me go out there more frequently just to piss him off. But not in the winter. Anyway, the FS offered to buy that unit back, the mill declined because they didn't want the guy to win, and the logger (who I'd had some problems with in the past) was assigned to remove the nails (which made me happy) and go ahead and cut the unit as planned. Forgot to mention that the spiking was discovered when a chain hit one. The faller thought it was just a fluke, cut some more and ruined another chain. He got to looking as did his partner and they found spikes at stump level and then higher up in each quadrant of many trees. The spiking was meticulous and thorough.Right, and she was given immunity from prosecution to squeal on her fellow conspirator. She was the one that wrote the damn threatening paper, that in itself constituted a crime. She also lied to congress under oath which is another crime. Her whole life has been one big self-serving lie. We can't blame Sleepy Joe for this, he don't even know what day it is, what left wing bunch that is running the country has their fingerprints all over it.
I've never been to college, that said, many of my close friends have, they have all written papers on subjects they did not necessarily agree with, its part of the college experience. Using that as a basis against someone is absurd. (I have zero kids, do I get some sort of award?)Let me see, you don't like it because people spiked trees, but then you don't like it that she let folks know that trees were spiked. I don't understand your logic process. Oh, and I have run a metal detector after 100+ trees were meticulously spiked. The suspect lived across the road and had all winter to do it. The nail heads were cut off to make them harder to see and pull out. He was on a mission. He was a drunkard who just didn't want the trees cut across the road from his shack. Evidence was never found to arrest him, but he had told me a couple of times that I'd better be careful when in that unit because something could happen to me. That made me go out there more frequently just to piss him off. But not in the winter. Anyway, the FS offered to buy that unit back, the mill declined because they didn't want the guy to win, and the logger (who I'd had some problems with in the past) was assigned to remove the nails (which made me happy) and go ahead and cut the unit as planned. Forgot to mention that the spiking was discovered when a chain hit one. The faller thought it was just a fluke, cut some more and ruined another chain. He got to looking as did his partner and they found spikes at stump level and then higher up in each quadrant of many trees. The spiking was meticulous and thorough.
I would agree that somebody else ought to replace her, but not an industry schill either. That's the other extreme. As to why writing a paper in college about limiting families to two kids (should be ONE kid actually) should have anything to do with it, please explain in detail.
I have been amused after reading a former adversary who didn't know much about forest management and appealed timber sales, spouting the "company" line. She went back to school and got a masters in whatever replaced forestry and now works for the Forest Service and has to buck up and support projects. She was contradicting what an enviro group was saying.
People can change, and they do. I think there is a Brad Paisly tune about that.
Terrorist, no not really.I went to an Earth First meeting at Oregon State. It was advertised in the college newspaper. I doubt you know this, but OSU was/is THE forestry school to go to in this part of the world. I was taking some quickie classes in Forest Engineering, or How To Get The Trees Out Of The Woods.
Part of college experience is to be around people from other places, and who have different experiences to share. Think of it as broadening your mind and actually having to think about things you might normally not think about. Thinking. It's a hard concept for many people.
The Earth Firsties were recruiting folks for Redwood Summer. We were supposed to sabotage every feller buncher in the woods because, you know, that piece of equipment rips out huge redwoods roots and all! At that point, I had heard enough BS. I don't like people who tell lies. I stood up and informed them that it is impossible for a buncher to rip out a huge redwood, that the buncher will even have trouble with some tall, large, second growth doug-fir. The other point they were making was that only the large corporations could own such equipment, so I corrected them on that lie also, and I left.
Guess I'm a terrorist?
And Northman, yup, you should get a tax break for NOT having kids. Overpopulation is the cause of much of the crap going on right now.
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