OK, I'm sure this is a simple answer for the pro's. But I have yet to grasp the smart answer to this one. The only tree's I cut on are already dropped by the forestry dept. here and its only for fire wood (they drop them if they have beetles or if the tree has something wrong with it) anyway, when the tree is laying down flat on the ground and you go to buck it up you have to worry about hitting the ground with your chain if you go all the way through, so my question is what do the pro's do in this situation? dig under the log to complete the cut making the log into section's that can be roled? I would image that this would not be a way that would be done by an arborist as there having to deal with someones yard. And in the situation that I am asking we arent having to deal with a yard, just the forest floor. I sure hope I have explained this situation better than the last question I asked, LOL.