Not a just a 2 stroke ban, the little 4 strokes are included.
Absolutely I will follow. Chinesium aside, the introduction of 4-cycle in string trimmers came and went like a prom date. The oil was specific. The level was crucial. Tip the power head up to use a pole saw attach't, the engine would starve, chug, and seize. READ the manual. I'll bet it states unit MUST be level at all times. Hang it up on a hook, and the crankcase, drains into the carb/cylinder? Good Luck...I've SEN ix movie before...I purchases two of these, I'm donating one of them to the City's Parks and Recreation volunteer trail crews after I hold a chainsaw safety and certification series of sessions to ensure that people are safe. The first saw would not start, it does not run however the second saw runs just fine, it started the first pull and has been used in the field exactly once.
The second saw I have checked for spark and made sure that the gap was about .711, and I checked the gas inflow and outflow and that's fine, yet the second saw refuses to run -- and my volunteer group and I have had maybe 40 saws pass through our hands over the past 2 decades, we have worked with a lot of saws, and we get our certifications refreshed by a USFS Hot Shot fire crew every 2 or 3 years depending, so we have a lot of experience with 2-stroke saws.
These new 4-strokes from Senix we are evaluating since California will be banning the sale of 2-stroke next year for State and civilian use. Us Federal volunteers may or may not be expected to replace our 2-strokes with 4-strokes as the 2-strokes die off -- and we put a LOT of wood under our saws every year so we replace them every 4 years or so when even rebuilding the cylinder and carbs gets to be diminishing returns.
So we have mixed feelings / reviews about this saw. The one that runs is too new to know how well it is going to behave in difficult efforts, and the second one will not run at all.
We do find that this 4-stroke is a LOT quieter than the Stihl 2 strokes that we use, and we have a lot of Stihl in our call-out sheds. Over the coming decades we expect the saws to need to be replaced if we must follow State or civilian rules, we don't know yet if volunteers must follow Federal, yet so far we have mixed feelings about the Senix CS4QL-L3.
That may change. I have contacted the manufacturer's technical people to run through what we have done to diagnose the saw and to request additional suggested checks we might perform before sending it back to the manufacturer. I assume that the saws we purchased were exercised for a few hours before being shipped, then the oil drained from the powerhead before being shipped, so I assume that the manufacturer tested the saws before shipping -- yet upon arrival we find one of them absolutely will not start so we can't be certain that they get tested well or competently before being shipped.
Any way I Googled and found this discussion and thought I would create an account, Bookmark this discussion, and offer my initial evaluation.We shall see what the manufacturer says, I don't want to crack open the carb and rebuild since it's under warranty for the next two years.
I cracked the saw open and found that the throttle linkage was screwed up in the shipping, I got the tools out and set things right and it started and ran, no problem. The shipping dislodged the throttle linkage and things got jammed up. now it's working.
You remind me that I have two saws that I need to part out or otherwise scrap, a Homelite and a Poulan -- or however it's spelled. I think we took them up Mount Saint Hawkins and got about 30 deadfalls bucked up off of the Hawkins Ridge Trail before they just died. Forest Service crews went up with horses the year before and spray painted numbers on them, 178 deadfalls and we managed to get about 30 or so before we killed those light saws.
Guess we learned a lesson! We kill cheap saws but rely on the expensive ones for "real work."
You remind me that I have two saws that I need to part out or otherwise scrap, a Homelite and a Poulan -- or however it's spelled. I think we took them up Mount Saint Hawkins and got about 30 deadfalls bucked up off of the Hawkins Ridge Trail before they just died. Forest Service crews went up with horses the year before and spray painted numbers on them, 178 deadfalls and we managed to get about 30 or so before we killed those light saws.
Guess we learned a lesson! We kill cheap saws but rely on the expensive ones for "real work."
But the saws are new so we'll break them in slowly. Never had that problem with 4 stroke trimmers - from the cheapie chinese one i have to the high end Honda my olds have. They run upside down fine.
The power to rate ratio is a good point. I'll be training volunteers with the City of Glendora with safety as well as situational awareness, they will be getting a cut-back version of the Federal saw safety training that is mandated for Federal workers on public lands. Having saws that are less beefy *might* be a good thing for infrequent volunteers.
This one still vibrated a lot.
I made a video of the first saw that ran out of the box:This one still vibrated a lot.
Yep.
I'm going to leave the idle where it is until it is broken in, and I want to test it at 7800 feet altitude before I touch it.Yep.
Um, no.
The Forest Service, BLM, and NPS will continue to use 2-stroke Stihl nation wide even while as State by Sate the old 2-strokes are banned for new sales, though eventually Federal air quality rules in locations where the air quality is hazardous will likely see adoptions of the California State's air quality rules, or a variation which is expected to be adopted nation wide as 2-strokes are phased out.Cheers - so you debunked it?I dont identify as a Canberran, cant stand the place. Just stuck here for work...
But as an Australian in particular, you should know the big fast scary fires are in the crowns - mucking around in the undergrowth doing prescribed burns will maybe possibly make it a little more controllable in the early stages if you're really lucky, but thats about it. Prescribed burning etc is more about public perception - bit like the safety instructions on an aircraft
Big firebreaks are put in with dozers - not chainsaws.
Anyway, thats largely beside my point - which was American (and Australian...) politics are as dumb as dogsiht making environmental issues a left/right thing. We all have the same lungs...
Los Angeles has some pretty unique geography that, along with a serious car addition problem even by american standards (google GM/Firestone/Standard Oil and their buyout of LA's awesome tram system that they then scrapped in order to sell more cars - shameful...) made their smog problems pretty awful. They have had to lead on emissions controls, and good on them. They pioneered the requirements to have catalytic converters for example, huge contribution to air quality across the world.
Every time something like this happens, there are always the usual "but muh freedumbs" crowd having a sook. Suck it up princess - its not all about you.
