Masterminded 362c 87 octane vs 94

[KG441c]

Google what most important spec for abrasion resistance is in oil then goggle specs for motul and k2

 

[KG441c]

I think viscosity index is most important in determing protection level and that too much flashpoint in a application where it isnt needed is gonna hinder ignition and running that high a flashpoint oil at 32 to1 is only gonna worsen the condition. That should anwser ur question from yesterday Mustang Mike. I think k2 mixed at 32 to1 with its lower flashpoint is gonna make the most energy and at its viscosity index of 140 is gonna protect better than motul 800 in our application. In an extreme high temp application the motul and h1r will be better

 

[KG441c]

Im throughly convinced the highest flashpoint is the incorrect way to pick oil

 

[CR500]

Mike......when you send some jugs, send a pint of Motul. I'll send back some K2 when I send back the jugs.

You still going to try it.

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[KG441c]

Until Id see different on a dyno to prove high flashpoint oil was making more power ill stick to common sense and run K2

 

[HuskStihl]

I remember starting a thread a year back asking if anybody knew of an oil that didn't work well (when mixed properly). If I remember right, a few of the guys felt some oils left too much carbon, but nobody named an oil they had seen a pattern of failure with

 

[MustangMike]

Id say close . Id be willing to bet if u take the same saw and used motul 800 at 32 to1 and then used k2 at 32 to1 one saw will will produce more energy than the other. Amsoil just didnt burn clean for me. I have 2 quarts of saber that I use in the weedeater

Is the AMSoil clean (& safe) at a diff ratio?

 

[KenJax Tree]

I've used Dominator and Saber at 40:1 and both were pretty clean....they did smoke a bit when first started but no smoke at all after about a minute

 

[HuskStihl]

The most important factor in using Dominator is the denominator.

 

[MustangMike]

Interesting, Keith though it did not run clean at 50:1. I will have to give it a try.

 

[KenJax Tree]

If a saw isn't tuned right no oil will burn clean...and im not saying Keith can't tune a saw im just saying in general.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Interesting, Keith though it did not run clean at 50:1. I will have to give it a try.

I used Saber for about 2 year and never had a problem with carbon....the top of the piston was a little brown but just wiped off nothing hard or that needed scraping to get off.

 

[KenJax Tree]

I take that back Mike it was 36:1 i had the 3.5oz bottles and i mixed with 1 gallon

 

[KG441c]

If a saw isn't tuned right no oil will burn clean...and im not saying Keith can't tune a saw im just saying in general.

Ported 261 at 14000 rpm amsoil saber 50 to 1. 30 minutes of running and the top of piston look like ur 362 did mustang. I ran amsoil in outboard drag motors and never had a problem but also ran omc engine tuner and yamaha ring free with the amsoil.

 

[CR500]

I wonder if the M-tronics can sense a different oil. I mean sometimes my 441 would have that chain spinning at idle issue when I was running Bel-Ray but only once in a while. Maybe it was trying to idle high enough so it did not foul out??? IDK

With K2 it does not seem to do it just food for thought. I hear H1R takes different tuning

If I were stranded in a forest with a ported saw and was given a choice between HP Ultra and H1R I still would take H1R. Nothing wrong with H1R
Sent from my non internal combustion device.

 

[KG441c]

From what Im seeing in the viscosity index between Motul, belray, k2 I agree all 3 will protect equal in our application. K2 has the highest at 140 of the 3 which can be seen the their website. The part that has me stumped is why Maxima made their flashpoint 1/2 of Motul and Belray? If u goggle high flashpoints in oils at standard operating temperature where the high flashpoint is irrelevant like in our saws I think its clear why k2 doesnt have a high flashpoint

 

[Trx250r180]

This stuff is da **** ......

 

[KG441c]

This stuff is da **** ......

Lmbo!!

 

[MustangMike]

I heard from a reliable source that that stuff was only good for big bore saws.

So what is UR mix ratio?

 

[KenJax Tree]

The last thing i want out in the woods is something to attract the bears