Masterminded 362c 87 octane vs 94

[Ron660]

Higher flashpoints are a good thing. It's the temperature at which the oil can ignite or burn/breakdown. Once the temperature reaches flash point no more protection. I doubt a chainsaw will reach 240+ without an engine malfunction. Not sure of internal engine operating temps of chainsaws....I'll take the extra insurance of a higher flashpoint.

 

[KenJax Tree]

The flash point is for the oil and only the oil, once its mixed with fuel the flash point is gonna change

 

[KenJax Tree]

Im not gonna really worry about it

 

[KG441c]

Im not gonna really worry about it

I find it interesting. Its known that ethanol is worse than non ethanol? All oils arent equal. Why not truly research instead of saying it is what it is ?

 

[KG441c]

I believe oils are different in makeup and some are better than others but if no one really cares to discuss octanes or oil lets just not worry about it , shut the thread down and move on

 

[RiverRat2]

Think I'm going to mix up some Maxima K2 tonight...

Sent from my non internal combustion device.

I like that Idea,,, of mixing stuff,,, My favorite is Ice, Glenfiddich single malt and a slash of well water,,, but not too much water!!!

 

[KenJax Tree]

I believe if im using a high end synthetic oil regardless of the flash point its gonna be ok. Pro MX race teams use Maxima K2 and them bikes get run a hell of a lot harder than i can run a chain saw. But those bikes get torn down and rebuilt all the time so IDK..K2 is my oil of choice.

 

[hoeyrd2110]

man i've been away for a while....but i sure picked a good thread to walk back in on. i love me a good oil thread

suprised no one brought up elf oil. i add a .5 oz of HTX with 3.5 oz of marine synthetic for my saws and such

 

[Ron660]

Marine synthetic? Probably what swamp loggers use.

 

[HuskStihl]

All of the oils currently mentioned are fine. They are designed for much more torturous applications than most saws, and will all burn clean and protect great (they're chemically very similar BTW). These threads are great, lots of knowledgeable folks around, but I swear these saws will run just fine with good oil film and no excessive carbon on the Husky semi synthetic low smoke stuff at lowes (that stuff actually smells kinda good BTW). Pick any bike oil you want, and it'll work great. Bed time, good night to allay'all

 

[MustangMike]

And with all this talk about the oil to use, no one has mentioned the best ratio. Is the ratio, at some point, a trade off between lubrication and running clean, and does it vary based on the specific oil? (In other words, one size [ratio] may not fit all products).

 

[KG441c]

Right now we are just working with motul tech on the 2 oils and which would be better in a saw and why. They wont give us an anwser other than neither oil is made for a saw and they wont recommend either. Robert(tech) at Motul headquarters in California said give us a few days to talk with engineering and France and we will see what they recommend and say about the formulation for saws. Ill ask about flashpoint and firepoint. Looks like they are leaning alil more toward the offroad but still not sure. Motul actually has an oil for chainsaws not available here in the US

 

[mdavlee]

Lucas semi synthetic works fine also. Milling will show you how annoying an oil is when you burn 40 oz of fuel in 2 cuts and only move a 10'. Lots of oils that I didn't think were bad cutting wood were awful when using them that way. I always try to get the log set up with the breeze to my back but it doesn't always work.

 

[RiverRat2]

Lucas semi synthetic works fine also. Milling will show you how annoying an oil is when you burn 40 oz of fuel in 2 cuts and only move a 10'. Lots of oils that I didn't think were bad cutting wood were awful when using them that way. I always try to get the log set up with the breeze to my back but it doesn't always work.

Good morning Mike
That's what they make big azzed fans for,,, just sayin!!!

 

[mdavlee]

Good morning Mike
That's what they lake big azzed fans for,,, just sayin!!!

Hard to carry all of that in the woods sometimes. I mean I already bring a lounge chair and micro fridge

 

[RiverRat2]

yeah I can see your point,,,,, get a small High efficiency one!!!!!

 

[KG441c]

Ive read alil on the flashpoint this morning and it can be a 2 edged sword it appears. Higher flashpoints in 2t oils resist igniting as easily as a lower flashpoint and if operating application doesnt call for higher temps then a higher flashpoint oil is actually less efficient at burning the oil off kinda like octane effects how a fuel burns and whether u burn it completely or just wasting it out the exhaust. Same with oil, using a higher flashpoint oil if not needed is hurting performance instead of helping. The k2 flashpoint is probably a better choice from that information in a saws application than a oil at 2x the flashpoint

 

[KG441c]

Also to consider if choosing oil by flashpoint is flashpoint isnt the point that the oil burns thats the firepoint? Flashpoint is the tempertaure that vapors from the oil will ignite and burn off on the cylinder walls and not the actual oil itself burning?

 

[mdavlee]

Randy if you want some motul I can send you a pint or so to try.

 

[RiverRat2]

Randy if you want some motul I can send you a pint or so to try.

Yeah I can also!!! But I would rather Bring IT!!!!!!!!