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A few years back I was part of a project that lalnded us up around Bonneville Dam. Up there the feeders are so hot that you can practically feel the hum from 20 -30 feet away. We were working long hours and I do not remember anyone talking about "Hookless" on these giant doug firs. Funny those trees have had this done to them a number of times over the years and I must say that those firs are still standing tall and healthy as ever. Power sucks, my uncle was killed in 1960 due to a power related accident and my dad brushed one in 79 and swears he had an outer body experience, so I tend to stray from it as much as possible. As for the boys layin it on the line, you all know what it takes do what you gotta and stay alive.
 
Highclimber OR said:
A few years back I was part of a project that lalnded us up around Bonneville Dam. Up there the feeders are so hot that you can practically feel the hum from 20 -30 feet away. We were working long hours and I do not remember anyone talking about "Hookless" on these giant doug firs. Funny those trees have had this done to them a number of times over the years and I must say that those firs are still standing tall and healthy as ever. Power sucks, my uncle was killed in 1960 due to a power related accident and my dad brushed one in 79 and swears he had an outer body experience, so I tend to stray from it as much as possible. As for the boys layin it on the line, you all know what it takes do what you gotta and stay alive.
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i agree, do whatever it takes to be safe, if you are alowd to hook then hook, hell i did and i would, its just not my job anymore. as far as huge trees sure, but the lines are only strung so high and like I've said already they get rid of the problem trees before they get too bad; IE: leaner's, dead, rotten holes and dangerously defected trees are removed asap. with res work sometimes they sit fer years.
 
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but the lines are only strung so high and like I've said already they get rid of the problem trees before they get too bad; IE: leaner's, dead, rotten holes and dangerously defected trees are removed asap. with res work sometimes they sit fer years.
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Not here, thousands of stone cold ugly p.o.s. trees beside the line. So bad you see marked trees on the ground, fell down all on thier own. So, add in the power and its a lot more "fun" than cutting down the same tree in a res. setting.
 
clearance said:
How do you figure that? Maybe a line clearance guy can't prune res. but it takes a lot to remove overhang or remove skanky trees by the line.
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i figure that cause removing overhangs and huge skanky shat it all routine stuff in res work. line guys also have the choice to pass up the occasional overhangs and let the vets handle em. i worked for a small company that got all asplund/ lewis cant handle stuff. it is a fact that those 2 huge company's give the bad stuff away to companies that are more qualified to do the job. . there is much more involved than a utility crew being sent out to clear a feeder, all the spans are walked, documented, and reported, some are even video recorded. all records are turned in, looked over very carefuly and sorted appropriately . what may be nasty for you could be the norm fer another
dont get me wrong clearance, i like most of your posts and respect the job yall do, but just because you lack the skillz out of your hooks dont mean the entire industry should not ever advance into the modern ages and use newer more tree friendly methods. instead of walking up just trees ,res guys walk up ropes and trees. i dont agree it should be up to the climber, i think it should be based on what we know today and a long term goal of whats best for the whole picture. its my op. that as long as the utility companies allow hooks than the damage is justifiable. i was a res climber long before i started utility trimming so the work was quite easy, i just could never get use to the fact/mith that the lines cause cancer, and went back to res work.. keep up the good work and be safe:)
 
clearance said:
Not here, thousands of stone cold ugly p.o.s. trees beside the line. So bad you see marked trees on the ground, fell down all on thier own. So, add in the power and its a lot more "fun" than cutting down the same tree in a res. setting.
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we do plenty of power line trees as well, just not every day
 
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If they cared about cost, they would coppice rural areas instead of drop crotching under a line. Coppice can bee tended by a ground crew in multi year cycles at a lower cost then bucket truck and operator.
 
Sad thing is drop crotching has been done for too many years to change it now, as far as spikeless vs spikes my thoughts are "safety" Ive trimmed many a maple, sycamore, etc.. spikeless in town directly under the lines!!

however in the ROW`s ive thrown on the hooks to climb that ugly doglegged cherry that has 10 suckers shooting to the wires and no tie in till the very top 60+ ft up!

I really think it depends on the tree and the situation! no matter what....its the climbers call.


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why not cut the damn trees down in the first place?

i do some minor ROW clearing here and there - mostly for the landowners who are way out in the boonies and there is no trimming here. drop the tree and don't worry about it for several years.
 
I went to work for an Asplundh climbing crew for a few weeks. I wouldn't spike trims and they hated it, although I still got the jobs done faster than the beer gut spikers. It got to the point that management told me I could no longer use my own gear and had to use their sh*t if I wanted to keep my job. I immediately put in my two minute notice.
 
userdude said:
I went to work for an Asplundh climbing crew for a few weeks. I wouldn't spike trims and they hated it, although I still got the jobs done faster than the beer gut spikers. It got to the point that management told me I could no longer use my own gear and had to use their sh*t if I wanted to keep my job. I immediately put in my two minute notice.
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is it typical too get paid piece work or is that b.s. for instance by the mile?
 
why woulda company like asplunger want to destroy all the trees isn't vegetation management what they are all about not vegetation removal i don't know i'm just a tree cutter can someone explain it
 
treeclimber101 said:
why woulda company like asplunger want to destroy all the trees isn't vegetation management what they are all about not vegetation removal i don't know i'm just a tree cutter can someone explain it
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they do whats needed, if they get busted cheating the work goes to other companies. no way in hell would any company be allowed to cut all the trees down, but anything in the right-away is allowed to be cut. thees line trimming companies will use a permission specialist to knock on doors to let the property owners know that they will be working on there yard. if the owner wants the trees down that interfere with the rightaway they will often get free removals out of the permission thing. many dont want the trees touched and most dont want there trees butchered. most of the manual work is small but plentiful. when there is the rare huge nasty the work goes to small more experienced companies such as the one i worked for.
 
The power company I worked for farmed ZERO work out. All work was done by their contract crews. Crews were/are paid by the hour not by the mile/tree, this helps promote good work.

A power company employee went and talked to all residential customers and marked their trees, and all the PC foresters are ISA certified, as were the crew leaders. If it was possible to trim the tree and make it look good and the customer wanted the tree, it stayed. If the tree was unable to be trimmed correctly and look good, or if the customer didn't want it then the tree was removed.

But we also didn't work with asplundh, they got ran out of town here.
 
chevytaHOE5674 said:
The power company I worked for farmed ZERO work out. All work was done by their contract crews. Crews were/are paid by the hour not by the mile/tree, this helps promote good work.

A power company employee went and talked to all residential customers and marked their trees, and all the PC foresters are ISA certified, as were the crew leaders. If it was possible to trim the tree and make it look good and the customer wanted the tree, it stayed. If the tree was unable to be trimmed correctly and look good, or if the customer didn't want it then the tree was removed.

But we also didn't work with asplundh, they got ran out of town here.
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oh that makes sense i thought that piece inn this situation sounded dangerous and would probably look like :censored: when done but what do i know
 

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