Pioneer chainsaws

[Perry pioneer]

Yeah that's all I can see ?????

 

[Wagnerwerks]

So perry got me thinking about my 650 and I have decided to give it a full resto. First question of I'm sure many...

Will this cank without counterweights work for the 650? I believe it's a 620 crank. My original has a few small pit lines from when the bearings sat for years so the new crank would go well with the new bearings and seals. I don't think I'll run it much but, you know. When I'm in there I figured why not. Pics soon of some progress......

 

[Perry pioneer]

620 got weights too but I think you can use it probably an ra or 600 crank...pioneer guy your the man what's the answer?

 

[pioneerguy600]

Case stuffers, yes that older crank should work but it won`t be quite as powerful as a crank with stuffers but would run the 650 fine.

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Well, she's all pulled down and getting the clean treatment. I've saved back a few parts from the pioneer shop pile for this saw and I think I have all I need except maybe a few small parts... Hers a small pile of cleaned or new parts I have ready to go. I had every part of a new carb including the body, except new choke and throttle flaps. N
I bead blasted the saw body, but I apparently missed a few too many of the thousand crevices in these saws. It's getting a nice degreaser soak and we'll try that again tomorrow. I did find a few small breaks in the webbing so a little jb action will be in order.
Lastly, if anyone has a pioneer frontier that's a showpiece, I have a nos case I'd like to trade away. I haven't had the heart to use it in case someone needed it.

Pss, what's the deal with the 2 different shades of yellow? When did they switch or was it just a this color was cheaper or a different guy mixed it that month thing?

 

[pioneerguy600]

Looking good, should make a real nice saw.

 

[Perry pioneer]

That's sweet Kris, can hardly wait for it to be finished what size bar is that you're going to run?

 

[Wagnerwerks]

They're both 24s. The used one I actually have a 20 and 24" body for, but only one nose. I have a few small pioneer roller bars I've thought about trading off. Maybe I can find a swap.... The new bar is the only one of the speed rol bars I've seen. It's new old stock and is almost too nice to use. It might be the "shelf bar". I also have a few modern 28" pioneer mount bars to run on it... What size would be a max on this puppy?

 

[Perry pioneer]

Probably 28" or maybe 32" I think acres site has it listed 16" to 28".

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Paint

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Glue

 

[Perry pioneer]

Sweet that ol paint is probably better than the new stuff don't forget to come up for air!!!!

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Yeah.. It's wicked ole enamel... I may try a few type of clear over some of it.

 

[P62]

It has been a while since I was on here last. A long hard winter. I picked up this NU17 not long ago. It is in original condition. The saw has not cut much wood. I had a NOS bar for it and made up a new 404 loop for it. I will leave it the way it is.

 

[pioneerguy600]

Very nice looking survivor you have there J . They sure are a heavy saw for their size, the coils are usually in bad shape on those saws but I have a few that are still good runners.

 

[Modifiedmark]

Posting this one up for Jerry.

It has spark and runs. Ended up using a coil from a Pioneer 1200A. Points wouldn't cooperate so it has a Nova module for now till I can find some original Pioneer points. On the other hand it sparks so well I might just leave it this way.

Looking around after I had this coil working, I found some old style Johnson/Evenrude coils that look like might be a straight swap onto the Pioneer laminate. They even have the plug wire oriented the right way.

Going to let the paint cure up another week or two till we try it in the wood. It will also give me time to try to figure out something to make this rubber carb to airbox sleeve actually seal up. What a shame that setup was.

I have to give a big shout out to Cbfarmall for helping me get this one going.

 

[Wagnerwerks]

Mark, I may have point s for it. I also have a parts saw. Do you have a pic of the coil handy? I have some downstairs....

 

[Wagnerwerks]

I have a 400 here complete, a few nu17 parts saws, a 750 parts saw and lots of bits I'd like to move along. If any of you guys need some of it, pm me and we can work something out.

I also have a 3071, 1420, and a bunch of 1073s....

 

[Perry pioneer]

She's a beut good job man! Nice muffler usually they are all rusted out yer lucky.

 

[rocketnorton]

I have a 400 here complete, a few nu17 parts saws, a 750 parts saw and lots of bits I'd like to move along. If any of you guys need some of it, pm me and we can work something out.

I also have a 3071, 1420, and a bunch of 1073s....

any pics of 750? need starter cover. nu 17 primer button. dunno what else for 750 yet.