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With fall around the corner, there is time to build one. Hypothetically.

So, what characteristics would your ideal firewood trailer have?


Mine would include, but not limited to:

F450, 7.3 diesel, crewcab for the helpers, 11' dumpbed, 4x4. (Since we are making a wishlist.)

7'6" x 16' maybe longer to fit loading equipment, and lots of wood.
#7K tandem axles, with electric brakes
Dump capability
Ramps
Barn door tailgate, removable
Aluminum construction to reduce weight of trailer to get max payload.
Bumper hoist, hideaway type, #1K capacity. (put a 2nd on the truck too)
Pintle hitch to keep most of the borrowers at bay.

Hydraulic hookups on truck/trailer for splitting accessory, like another member here had behind his truck cab.

 
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I've got a Moritz dump trailer 6x10. I bought the smaller one on purpose because I thought I might want to get it in tight places. However it will only hold a cord with side boards in place. It has 2 6K axles that are plenty for firewood. Put a load of dirt of gravel in it and look out. 3 scoops of dirt and it weighed over 12K across the scales.

If its for firewood only the bigger size wood be good. Loading crane wood be nice so the tractor wouldn't have to be there.
 
Yeah, forgot about maybe using a small, tractor or skidsteer, for going through the woods to bring the rounds or small logs out to the rig.

Okay, make it a triaxle, 3-#6K axles, and 24' long, then I can fit the compact tractor on there too.
 
Well wdchuck, you just described the way I haul wood except for one thing, I rent the dump trailer drive the Bobcat with grapple bucket in the back and haul to the woods, laod as much as I can before having to hand throw the last of it in the trailer and haul home and dump repeat process until finished, the only problem is that I have to cut a lot of wood in one spot to justify renting the dump trailer which costs 75.00 a day, I rented it this spring and hauled roughly 19 cord in 5-6 hrs and felt okay at the end of the day. I'm thinking of making a trailer like a log trailer with a open bottom, so I can cut poles and load them with the grapple and haul home and buck them on stands, or store them easier until wanting to screw with it.
 
I am building one right now. I have a set of 8K dexters because you know we always want to put on one more piece. The axles are sporting 12/16.5's for good floatation. It is 22' long 8' wide deck over. It is going to have a removable grapple loader and 9hp hydraulic pack on the tongue. I was going crazy on it this spring but the project has fizzled this summer. The frame is almost done and it is ready to mount the axles.
 
I am building one right now. I have a set of 8K dexters because you know we always want to put on one more piece. The axles are sporting 12/16.5's for good floatation. It is 22' long 8' wide deck over. It is going to have a removable grapple loader and 9hp hydraulic pack on the tongue. I was going crazy on it this spring but the project has fizzled this summer. The frame is almost done and it is ready to mount the axles.

Pics of your progress? I'm not trying to steal your ideas, just interested in your trailer project. Sounds like a good idea you've got going.

Kevin
 
imagine a 20 foot gooseneck horse trailer, except no top.

and, the fenders are on the inside, so it is a full 8 feet wide on the inside, other then fenders.
18 inches off the ground, 6 feet tall sides, 8k axles, for a gross of about 17k.

trailer weighs 5,000 pounds with the warn winch mounted in the overhead.

haul skid steer to mountains, load wood. bring wood home, unload with mini excavator at home.
 
Ideal firewood trailer for what I have now to pull with (1/2 ton)...

Bascially a BigTex 18' 70CH trailer (tandem axle, 7000lb GVWR, 18'x83" version, no dove tail, electric brakes on both axles, 4' slide-in ramps, Bulldog coupler, and a SPARE TIRE mount...don't ask why...) with a hydraulic scissor lift for dumping capabilities. I would build wood sides to fit into the tie down pockets (I would like the side to be removable so the trailer could be used for other duties where the sides might get in the way). And...a suitable weight distribution hitch system.

From BigTex's website: http://www.bigtextrailers.com/trailers/70ch.html

For a price, they might be able to build "my" trailer.

Now if I had more truck...

Kevin
 
You'd better buy that Powerstroke! You know you want it:)

LOL, yep, I got it all figured out...sell my current truck, if need be add approx. $1000 or $2000 (to what I get for my truck) to get a '95 or 96' (or 97') F250, SuperCab, 4x4, short or long box, Powerstroke, with about 200,000 miles. A F350 would be nice, but they cost more and as far as I know, they don't come in SuperCab...just regular or crewcab. Sounds easy enough don't it? :) . But, my truck is from Canada and I don't know if folks would want to deal with the speedo and odometer in km/h and km.

I have been told that Cummins are easier to work on...:popcorn: .

Kevin
 
I sure love my '96 F250 Powerstroke :clap:

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Ive had quite a few 1/2 tons, and all they ever did was complain about what I loaded them with, or hitched to them. The powerstroke I have now never complains. The flatbed is sweet too. best $600 I have ever spent.



As for trailers....

With the cost of steel right now, it doesnt even make sense to build your own from scratch. Ive cnsidered it, because Id love to have a true 3/4 or 1 ton trailer to hitch to my F250 flatbed for firewood duty. It would double the available payload, and make each run worth 3 cord. :chainsaw:

But just the cost of raw materials prevents building a trailer from scratch. Lately Ive been looking at used trailers, right now an old military style 3/4 ton trailer would fit the bill nicely. Ive seen a few around for less than $500. Just have to update the wiring for lights, throw fresh rubber on them, check the bearings, and either deal with the pintle hitch or replace it with something more standard.
 
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Many will argue that the Cummins motor is better than the powerstroke.

I wont argue that.

But comparing the pickups they come in is a whole different story.

Even a lot of Dodge cummins guys say the only reason they buy a dodge is for the motor. The truck simply falls apart around the motor. :dizzy:

Ive got a touch more than 250k on my F250. The only things non motor related it has needed in its entire life are shocks, ball joints, and a trans rebuild (auto).
 
True, true.

The Cummins (esp the previous generation) is widely regarded as the best diesel that can be put in a light duty truck (3/4 ton, 1 ton, etc).

However, I am partial to Fords and like my 7.3 just fine. I don't have to finish first, I just have to finish!

If you had some cash to toss around you could buy an F250 and destroke it by putting in a Cummins. There are at least a couple of shops in the USA that sell complete kits for this. I was on one site that even sold adapter plates for mating up different trannies to diesels. There are a few F250s out there with the 5.9 Cummins and an Allison (sp) transmission.

I'd consider converting my truck, but like I said one would need the cash to toss around and I'm barely above having to save up for Friday's newspaper! :monkey:
 
I sure love my '96 F250 Powerstroke :clap:

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Ive had quite a few 1/2 tons, and all they ever did was complain about what I loaded them with, or hitched to them. The powerstroke I have now never complains. The flatbed is sweet too. best $600 I have ever spent.



As for trailers....

With the cost of steel right now, it doesnt even make sense to build your own from scratch. Ive cnsidered it, because Id love to have a true 3/4 or 1 ton trailer to hitch to my F250 flatbed for firewood duty. It would double the available payload, and make each run worth 3 cord. :chainsaw:

But just the cost of raw materials prevents building a trailer from scratch. Lately Ive been looking at used trailers, right now an old military style 3/4 ton trailer would fit the bill nicely. Ive seen a few around for less than $500. Just have to update the wiring for lights, throw fresh rubber on them, check the bearings, and either deal with the pintle hitch or replace it with something more standard.

keep the pintle hitch... keeps people from wanting to use it
:chainsaw:
 
Well Chuck, I have a start on you, My 97 Super Duty that the boys and I built last winter. No bed hoist but now has a 2000 Lb jib hoist to lift the biggens up on the bed.My trailer is a year away awaiting funding but I have a 4000 Lb rated knuckle boom to weld on the front end of the trailer, a pto pump, tank and lines for the truck And a 10,000 LB Carco whinch if need be.

The ole SD

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Pics of your progress? I'm not trying to steal your ideas, just interested in your trailer project. Sounds like a good idea you've got going.

Kevin

I will get some pics of the trailer progress but it doesn't look so cool with the weeds growing through the frame right now.

Here are a few pics of a dump trailer I built using and ez-dump insert 15 years ago. The trailer has been so sweet, it is very light, I towed it for years with a Nissan PU. The tailgate folds down as a ramp to help with loading chunks.

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p381/dieterebert/dump trailer/Image022.jpg

http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p381/dieterebert/dump trailer/DSCF0136.jpg
 
A dump trailer made from a flat bed and insert, two units into one, but can be seperated easily and quickly.....now that right there is a good idear.
 
what I really want is a Cummins engine with a Allison 1000 in a 03-05 Crew cab Chevy with a Dana 60 solid front axle that dosent use unit bearings from a 78 ford truck:clap:
but nomatter what I have to agree with others to make it a pintle hitch, all the borrowers tend to disappear and the ones that go out and buy a pintle hitch just so that you have no excuse not to loan it out decide that it is too jerky to use and your an idiot for using them:confused:
 
With fall around the corner, there is time to build one. Hypothetically.

So, what characteristics would your ideal firewood trailer have?


Mine would include, but not limited to:

F450, 7.3 diesel, crewcab for the helpers, 11' dumpbed, 4x4. (Since we are making a wishlist.)

7'6" x 16' maybe longer to fit loading equipment, and lots of wood.
#7K tandem axles, with electric brakes
Dump capability
Ramps
Barn door tailgate, removable
Aluminum construction to reduce weight of trailer to get max payload.
Bumper hoist, hideaway type, #1K capacity. (put a 2nd on the truck too)
Pintle hitch to keep most of the borrowers at bay.

Hydraulic hookups on truck/trailer for splitting accessory, like another member here had behind his truck cab.

14 ft, 102 wide, hoist, swinging gate, 4ft sides and a grapple mounted on the tounge.
 

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