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Discussion in 'Forestry and Logging Forum' started by Gologit, Jul 7, 2012.

  1. catbuster

    catbuster Catskinner. And buster.

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    I stand corrected. I came out in November.

    The second part of that post is still valid.
     
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    Blue Oaks ArboristSite Guru

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    I have no doubt as we get deeper into the fire season we'll see a lot more acreage burned. My point was we kept hearing how "fire season is going to be year round" and not only was this season on the low side, it was dramatically lower up to this point, off the charts lower.

    I don't know what climate change is doing to increase hot dry winds in the fall, but certainly those winds have been around for as long as I've been alive. Keeping ignition down in those critical times is far, far more important than clearing brush on 1/10 of 1% of the land out there.

    On another note, I was smoking a brisket (first one, turned out great) on Sat evening when I turned on my radio and tuned it to the local Cal Fire repeater (SCU Loma) and immediately heard a bunch of tones then a laundry list of assets being sent to the next canyon over, about five miles away. After the air support couldn't find anything, the ground crews ID'd the fire as a BBQ in the campground in the area...
     
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    I’ll just leave this here.
     
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    madhatte It's The Water Staff Member

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    Foehn winds forecast here over the next couple of days. Probably the last significant fire weather of the year for us.
     
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  6. catbuster

    catbuster Catskinner. And buster.

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    Probably best for everybody. The college kids are gone and after last year everyone could use a break. I wasn’t out west this year and I only had to grease my White’s & Nicks once this summer.
     
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    madhatte It's The Water Staff Member

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    I would have liked at least one good fat paycheck, just sayin'. Got a couple of middlin' ones but nothing like last year.
     
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    madhatte It's The Water Staff Member

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    Arggh, NorCal doesn't need that at all.
     
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    No it doesn't!

    At least this year I'm more prepared for a local fire. I've got 50 watt radios in my garage and truck, both programmed with the Cal Fire local repeater and Tac channels. Also a couple hand held 8 watters programmed. Further, I tested my next door neighbor's fire hydrant fed by 5000 gallons in tanks on the hill. I got about 5 gallons out before it went dry. Apparently the pipe broke while they were on vacation, and the gardener turned off a valve and didn't tell anyone. SMH. That is now repaired and ready for testing again. The tanks are a looong way up the hill, so I'm hoping the pressure will be sufficient to run one of my 1 1/2" hose and nozzles, in addition to being a great place to fill tenders.

    Bad news is my "fire fighting" water pump I bought won't start. I'm glad I figured that out before I tried to get it all set up with a fire bearing down on me!
     
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    Southern Oregon could use a break as well.
     
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    Has there been any studies done on changes to the patterns of hot, fast winds? In CA the #1 destructive force is the high winds that fan the flames.
     
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    Foehn winds are well understood. The driver of the increased frequency and intensity is the subject of the article linked above.
     
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    Fire switch was turned on in Ca today

    Plumas NF , East of Quincy, Ca
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    Murrieta, Ca SoCal[​IMG]

    Inyo NF Taboose Creek area off of 395 @ Big Pines


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    Calif lighting up today. The season is here


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    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    The Tenaja fire ran out of fuel when it hit the fuel break at that subdivision.
     
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    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    Red bank fire is 6000 acres now west of Redding.
    3 fires are visible on the cohasset hill camera,the red bank, one a few miles west, and one further west.
    http://www.alertwildfire.org/shastamodoc/index.html
    One north of hayfork just getting started in some nasty country.

    The collier fire off I5 and highway 96 was building some heat at sunset. The lone fire on the modoc has burned 2592 acres since 4pm.
     
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    A thought: we have been mapping fires for years. We have been mapping fuels sorta for years but not well. What if we mapped fuels as say a per acre calorie value to track before/after fire risk on a raster so that we could estimate both current and future fire intensities both before and after fires? That is, if a big fire happens it resets at zero for every cell in the raster until more data comes in and before any of you clowns say "that sounds like graduate research work" I'm gonna say yeah but not me because I have actual work to do and show me the money etc. This is probably a napkin sketch at a GTG and if any of you who see me in NorCal in a few weeks let me forget this well I will probably whine up a storm.
     
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    TheBrushSlasher I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.

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    Satellite Shot of the Walker fire.
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