Discussion in 'Chainsaw' started by phil21502, Sep 7, 2012.
is the husky 555 a tru pro saw or is it a mid level saw like a stihl ms391 is?
If one were to consider the 391 a mid level saw, then yes, the 555 would be a pro saw in comparison.
Neither, it is a true "semi-pro" saw with a mag case, and the 391 is a pure consumer class saw, with a plastic case and a clamshell design.
In other words, the 555 is a much higher class saw - they are not comparable at all, not even close to! :smile2:
It is a pro saw in every way other than the manufacturer's designation.
Not really, as they have made sure that the power is down, compared to the real pro versions (560xp and 562xp)
I'm feeling arguementative tonight!
What makes a pro saw?? The construction, power to weight, or company designation? The power to weight is just as good as a 361 which certainly is a pro saw and it is built just like a 562. It's a pro saw in every way other than designation.
Moral of the story is it is constructed like a pro saw but does not represent the maximum performance or power available on that chassis.
Whether the latter is necessary for you to consider something a "pro-saw" is really a matter of opinion I guess.
As the others have said it doesn't bear the official "pro saw" type endorsement but wrt construction, durability, and even respectable P/W, it is more or less a "pro saw".
Both have to fit in the pro class +a little more, and the power to weight of the 555 just doesn't fit + it lacks the "revboost" of the pro versions.
There are no reason to think the lesser version is "just as good", regardly how many that wants it to be......Also, the "strato" ports are much "slimmer" on the 555, and the combustion chamber is larger, and there are no easy way to "fix" either. The lower case compression can be fixed by adding the 560/562 crank stuffers though.
The unpopular answer
I use my saws for logging, doing firewood, and tree jobs. In short, I use them to make money, period. Does that make them "pro saws"?
Based upon my years both a full and part timer in the industry, there are two criteria that make a saw a "pro saw". First is reliability, the second is availability of parts and servicing dealers. If the saw is down, like any other piece of equipment, it isn't making money.
Weight and /or power to weight has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you look at and work with guys that are in the woods 5 to 6 days a week, they don't care if the saw weighs 15 lbs or 20 lbs. They're rugged sobs that are more interested in making chips, (chips equal money) and getting the job done, than they are in the marketing crap on the spec sheets. Seen many of them dressing hemlock and I've done it myself with 395s and 660s because that's what is there to use. Not ideal but you just do it.
To the OP's original question, I know several guys that ran the pea out out of their 359s making a living in the firewood business. They put up more wood in a year than most of the posters here do in a lifetime. Since the 555 replaces it, it's capable if it holds up to being a "pro saw". I also know some guys that have short money that work all day in the woods with MS390s. It's what they've got so it's what they use.
In short it's not the saw that makes a pro, it's the hands, body, and mind running it. The rest IMO is just topics for a BS session.
Swap Yankee- Agreed!
I have owned and shot rifles by AICS and GAP- many call them sniper rifles.... only true if the owner is employed in LEO or military slotted as a job title= Sniper.
A "pro" chainsaw is owned owned and operated by someone making a living using a saw.
A "pro grade" saw is one engineered and manufactured to high standards for long hours of use by said professionals.
Luckily we are all able to buy the best and use it in our hobbies and past times.
The 555 is likely my next saw, I have the extra $$ in my pocket, I would prefer the 562XP as I have a better selection of large mount bars but I will be very happy to have the 555 as it will do everything I really need done and is a well constructed high quality saw that should last me many hours of use..
I mostly disagree here, as it's the same saw with a different coil and a slightly different combustion chamber. I guess my thinking is that a slightly detuned pro saw is still a pro saw. Without a doubt it is of pro construction.
But..............this thread illustrates a rather significant difference as to how Husky and Stihl each approach the mid level/prosumer market, or whatever we want to call the gray area between the homeowner and pro markets. Their competing homeowner models are all plastic/clamshell stuff, and the pro models from both brands are top quality designs. But in the mid range stuff, the difference is huge.
Husky offers de-tuned versions of their XP saws, such as the 353, 545, 555, 365XT and such. So, the mid range buyer gets a pro quality, mag case saw at a reasonable savings.
Stihl on the other hand offers upgraded homeowner type saws with clamshell construction. Not saying that it can't work, and I think the 391 is a decent saw. But when you take a close look at what your getting at the prices being charged for these saws, I think Husky offers the end user a much better alternative to the comparable Stihls.
I agree with all that, except that I would call the 555 etc pro quality semi-pro saws, not true pro saws. Of course that is just playing with words, and Husky themselves also seem a bit undecided at what "label" to put on those saws.....:msp_biggrin:
The last time Stihl did something similar was the MS341, that wasn't offered for sale either in the US or here - unless the 650 and the 780 counts...
Yes, we are playing with words to a degree. Husky came up with the "Landowner" term, which only added to the confusion. But it's really kind of a hard thing to pin down with a single word.
But I do hesitate accepting the idea that the lack of an XP label means we can't call it a pro saw. Jonsered puts their "Ulticore" label, (which I think is silly to begin with), on saws such as the 2166, so they've chosen to draw the line a little differently than Husky.
Are you talking the transfer ports with the covers or the actual stratos?
Yes, I have notised that, and agree the "Ulticore" label is silly.
Up here its still designated as a pro saw, just like the 353/359/365 always were.
The ones with the covers - they have been called the strato ports several times on here, but I never really looked into it myself.
They are just covers for the transfer ports
It didn't just show up on it's own of course. One or more people had to think of it, and then they actually had to decide to use it. That's all they could come up with? :msp_confused:
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