New Super Split HD Owner!!

[sam-tip]

I was curious the same when we put the HD together and wanted to see how consistent the rack travel was... I held about a 16" piece of a spruce 2x4 stud on edge and engaged the rack and it slightly indented the wedge side of the 2x about an 1/8" thick, if that. It made the same indention half a dozen times so mine gets within an 1 3/8" or so consistently.

I thought 2 x 4 was a great way to test the wedge distance. So since you guys like pictures. Here is a short video. I do think my wedge is set to far back. Might have to give super split a call. But I know from a conversation with the Split Second engineers this is not a simple weld.

 

[KiwiBro]

I thought 2 x 4 was a great way to test the wedge distance. So since you guys like pictures. Here is a short video. I do think my wedge is set to far back. Might have to give super split a call. But I know from a conversation with the Split Second engineers this is not a simple weld.

Do you have to maintain pressure on the handle to keep it engaged during normal operation?
I mean, does it ever disengage when only moderate pressure comes on unless you hold the handle up?

 

[sam-tip]

Do you have to maintain pressure on the handle to keep it engaged during normal operation?
I mean, does it ever disengage when only moderate pressure comes on unless you hold the handle up?

No it stays engage. No pressure needed. Just pull up and it goes until the end of the rack. Got the same measurement by pulling out the rack by hand and then lifting the handle while the motor was not running. But pinching a board with motor running is more fun.

 

[KiwiBro]

Am not near mine to check but am pretty sure it gets closer to the wedge than that.

Would be a pain in stringy wood.

 

[sam-tip]

Yes it is a pain in stringy wood. Had to use a 2 x4 and 3/4 inch piece to get the same demple as 2 x 4 only on the HD.

On the right are 2 strikes from the HD. 2x4 only. On left is one strike on SE with extra 3/4 shim on 2x4


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[USMC615]

Yes it is a pain in stringy wood. Had to use a 2 x4 and 3/4 inch piece to get the same demple as 2 x 4 only on the HD.

On the right are 2 strikes from the HD. 2x4 only. On left is one strike on SE with extra 3/4 shim on 2x4


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...exactly the same as my half dozen or so rack engagement travel '2x4 test.' About an 1/8" deep indentation. After the first hit, I raised the 2x above the bottom wedge weld about half inch and it imprinted it the same depth across the whole rear face of the 2x.

 

[Oldman47]

I was curious the same when we put the HD together and wanted to see how consistent the rack travel was... I held about a 16" piece of a spruce 2x4 stud on edge and engaged the rack and it slightly indented the wedge side of the 2x about an 1/8" thick, if that. It made the same indention half a dozen times so mine gets within an 1 3/8" or so consistently.

This is totally irrelevant. Nobody except maybe the poster, USMC615, expects a splitter to work across the grain. No way will it ever work that way regardless of the tonnage rating. Splitting is splitting, not cutting to length. If you want to cut to length use a chain saw not a splitter.

 

[sam-tip]

My original question was.

How close does the ram or rack get to your wedge. A 2x4 is just a good way to measure the gap while running splitter. The distance from wedge to ram. We are not cross cutting 2x4's

 

[USMC615]

This is totally irrelevant. Nobody except maybe the poster, USMC615, expects a splitter to work across the grain. No way will it ever work that way regardless of the tonnage rating. Splitting is splitting, not cutting to length. If you want to cut to length use a chain saw not a splitter.

Done as a simple gage/measurement test Oldman47, as Sam-tip stated...no we are NOT seeing who can split 2x's across the grain or otherwise!!

 

[USMC615]

My original question was.

How close does the ram or rack get to your wedge. A 2x4 is just a good way to measure the gap while running splitter. The distance from wedge to ram. We are not cross cutting 2x4's

My original question was.

How close does the ram or rack get to your wedge. A 2x4 is just a good way to measure the gap while running splitter. The distance from wedge to ram. We are not cross cutting 2x4's

Doug, curious, without never seeing a SE model, a couple of possible questions in regard to the SE rack travel end point to the wedge, I know you've stated different dimensions btwn both your models, SE and HD...Is the I-beam length the same on the SE as the base framework J and HD model? Is the rack length the same as well? I'm just guessing here but if the same concerning the rack length btwn both models, with its double bevel at the end of the rack, which dictates 'rack up disengagement', and return spring for the retraction, I don't know if the internal housing welds/mount may be a little different btwn your SE and HD model. Again, I'm curious as to any structural differences inside the cover, and they may all be the base framework, just the SE sporting the biggest flywheels by weight, and the end result could be the welded wedge on the SE possibly dictating the difference. I'd like your thoughts and others.

 

[sam-tip]

The end of the I beams are the same length from resting position of ram. 31 1/4 inches. The wedge does sit back 1/4 inch on SE. (26 3/4) SE HD (26 1/2) I will need to pull the covers and measure from the pinion. and length of rack. I thought they were the same rack.

HD

HD

SE

SE

HD measurement point.

 

[sam-tip]

Thinking the rest of the difference is from the different bearing holding the pion.


HD bearings bolts in and only goes in the slot.

The SE is a different bearing and is welded. The bearing is subject to the welder on its location.

HD bearing

SE bearing

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[sam-tip]

Now my plan is to take apart the pushing pad and add a spacer. Then resemble.

Part 006

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[USMC615]

Now my plan is to take apart the pushing pad and add a spacer. Then resemble.

Part 006

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Thanks for the info and detailed pics.

 

[sam-tip]

My mod. Back together.

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[USMC615]

Nice mod Doug.

 

[USMC615]

Nice mod Doug.

...I think you have definitely solved the 'stringy' issue with particular woods. Great idea and modification.

 

[sam-tip]

I did compare the two rack and pions while I had them apart. They are the same racks on these HD and SE.

Be sure to use heat to get the bolts loose on the pusher. Must have used some kind of Loctite. With little heat they came out quickly. Then clean the treads with tap and die. Almost ruined one bolt from the left over Loctite.
Also got my follower bearing oiled better while apart.

 

[USMC615]

My mod. Back together.

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Doug, how did the shim/extension work on the ram? Does it split the stringier wood all the way?...At least minimize the effort to pull apart a round and get the other half back in action, ready to go again on the beam? Clever idea on the mod.

 

[sam-tip]

Doug, how did the shim/extension work on the ram? Does it split the stringier wood all the way?...At least minimize the effort to pull apart a round and get the other half back in action, ready to go again on the beam? Clever idea on the mod.

Have not tried it yet. Been out of town working. Hope to try it this afternoon. I did talk to Paul from Super Split Monday morning. He first thought I had the wrong rack. But I assured him the racks are the same. At one time they had a mix up from the heat treating company. Another brand uses the same heat treating company.

From my conversation with Paul I think I can get the pusher closer to the wedge. Paul thought the gap should be closer to 3/4 of and inch not just under a 2x4 width. Paul said the gap used to be very close to the wedge but for safety they increased the distance from the wedge. Might make another spacer with 1" steel for the SE and put this spacer on the HD.