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... The very next day I secured a $5300 job with less risk and better access.


Doing what! What size trees do you have down there!!?
Did you bid up against others on that one? E.g. were they getting more than one bid?
Do you have big advertising, or a recognizable company name?
Thats pretty big dollar for tree work! :agree2:
 
Doing what! What size trees do you have down there!!?
Did you bid up against others on that one? E.g. were they getting more than one bid?
Do you have big advertising, or a recognizable company name?
Thats pretty big dollar for tree work! :agree2:

3 removals, pretty large (for here), about 3' dbh. Our trees are actually quite smaller than the trees in Mass. $4500 for two Pin Oaks, one in front, one in back. Had to lower some big limbs and the top out of the one in front. had to lower three large limbs out of the tree in back. Grind two stumps and haul everything away. The other tree was an add on. Told hm I would do it for a thousand but he talked me down to $850 (which was dirt cheap) but he was an old guy and I liked him. Tree was about 2 1/2' dbh. Had to haul the wood and grind that stump as well. $5350 for the whole job. Rounded off the whole job was just below $1800 a tree which is a decent price for three large removals with stumps ground and hauled off.

And yes it was a competitive bid. The first guy bid $4500 on the original trees not to include the stumps. I said I would do it and the stumps for that price and won the bid.

I am in two yellow pages here plus I do some other advertising. I've got a good name here so I normally stay busy. Been a slow Winter though.
 
Just put your mind beyond the pain. I about fifteen years ago broke both collar bones smashed my left scapula and dislocated my right, punctured a lung and hairline fracture in a vertebrae, that was a painful experience. DAMNNNN!! top that off with five years before that cut my right forearm to the bone getting several tendons and was only off work two months for the cut three for the other. I have pain all the time but, it is not nearly as bad as the three months recovering from the accident so I focus on that. I don't favor pain instead I work through it and is probably why I can climb disabled.

What did you do dude! :censored:! bleeeep!!! :crazy1:
 
Murph, Im not trying to blow my own horn, but I cant think of a climber I've met that is better than I.
I am mean with the throw line. I took Rip and Ken's Arbormaster course with Rip Thompkins himself, and learned all his little line setting tricks. As a matter of fact, that was probably one of the biggest best things I learned in the two day course. They make you take Arbormaster I, eventhough you've been climbing for 12 years, in order to take Arbormaster II.
Has anyone taken 'Arbormaster II'?

Anyway, now I CAN set a line almost anywhere in the tree, with multi-line techniques... do you know how to use two-three lines to set in a very difficult crotch? ;)
and the more I use it, the less attempts til I get it in the right spot. I usually get it good within three tosses, unless I haven't used it for a few weeks, and no, after the class I realized that I DO NOT need to buy a Big-shot to get it to 60', albeit its probably a little easier and more accurate in less attempts if I'm not warmed up :rock:

I will admit that I cannot really foot lock straight up very well, and do not. I kinda blame it on the lack of any tread on my boots, all of which is worn off, and my saddle which is of the older 'bench seat' a little heavier and restrictive variety when trying to pull and move straight up makes it kinda hard when trying the foot looking action thats used to win the competitions.
I am not slow getting up there though. I am tall and lanky and get up quick. I don't stop. But once I get to the top of the tree, I am fast and can run around the tree, move and get to cuts quickly, smoothly, safely, and efficiently.

My biggest problem is I ALWAYS do too much in the tree. I do 'Class I' prunes on just about every tree I get in, eventhough its priced for a 'Class II' or III. Its a majot fault of mine. I'm a perfectionist.

As far as the truck goes. I can fit just as many chips in my F350 than my bro can in his 11' Arbortech Topkick. His only advantage is the man-cab for storage.
I have a niche in Cambridge, MA, and Boston, inner-city, however, where all streets are small, narrow, and crowded, and most jobs would otherwise need a police detail. But because I have a smaller truck, my truck and chipper is not only MUCH shorter, and we always find a way of parking in the city where bigger trucks wouldn't have a prayer, we can often back into driveways, and don't get harassed by cops when we are on the sidewalk, BECAUSE they WOULD REQUIRE a police detail if we had a forestry truck!
We also hop on the highway all the time and travel 30mins at 75mph to do jobs outside of town, zip around town, do estimates, etc. etc. where as in a bigger rig, that is just not practical, or cost effective. I also save on parking!
So although I am torn about if and when I will buy a large forestry truck w/ a bucket most definitely if I do decide to go that route, its just not in the cards right now, and I've decided to wait and see.
I live 10 mins from Harvard Sq. and park in my driveway :rockn:
Believe me, I wish I had a yard! :popcorn:

Peace men

ps. I would like to learn more though. The fastest climber going up in the course was a 5'6" little Guatemalan dude who climbs for Savatree in Conn. Kid went to regional finals! He was ill. Looked like he was skating up the rope! I would like to learn something from you too :)
I've already started raising my prices ;) ...to 2,500 per day :D
 
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Murph, Im not trying to blow my own horn, but I cant think of a climber I've met that is better than I.
I am mean with the throw line. I took Rip and Ken's Arbormaster course with Rip Thompkins himself, and learned all his little line setting tricks. As a matter of fact, that was probably one of the biggest best things I learned in the two day course. They make you take Arbormaster I, eventhough you've been climbing for 12 years, in order to take Arbormaster II.
Has anyone taken 'Arbormaster II'?

Anyway, now I CAN set a line almost anywhere in the tree, with multi-line techniques... do you know how to use two-three lines to set in a very difficult crotch? ;)
and the more I use it, the less attempts til I get it in the right spot. I usually get it good within three tosses, unless I haven't used it for a few weeks, and no, after the class I realized that I DO NOT need to buy a Big-shot to get it to 60', albeit its probably a little easier and more accurate in less attempts if I'm not warmed up :rock:


I will admit that I cannot really foot lock straight up very well, and do not. I kinda blame it on the lack of any tread on my boots, all of which is worn off, and my saddle which is of the older 'bench seat' a little heavier and restrictive variety when trying to pull and move straight up makes it kinda hard when trying the foot looking action thats used to win the competitions.
I am not slow getting up there though. I am tall and lanky and get up quick. I don't stop. But once I get to the top of the tree, I am fast and can run around the tree, move and get to cuts quickly, smoothly, safely, and efficiently.

My biggest problem is I ALWAYS do too much in the tree. I do 'Class I' prunes on just about every tree I get in, eventhough its priced for a 'Class II' or III. Its a majot fault of mine. I'm a perfectionist.

As far as the truck goes. I can fit just as many chips in my F350 than my bro can in his 11' Arbortech Topkick. His only advantage is the man-cab for storage.
I have a niche in Cambridge, MA, and Boston, inner-city, however, where all streets are small, narrow, and crowded, and most jobs would otherwise need a police detail. But because I have a smaller truck, my truck and chipper is not only MUCH shorter, and we always find a way of parking in the city where bigger trucks wouldn't have a prayer, we can often back into driveways, and don't get harassed by cops when we are on the sidewalk, BECAUSE they WOULD REQUIRE a police detail if we had a forestry truck!
We also hop on the highway all the time and travel 30mins at 75mph to do jobs outside of town, zip around town, do estimates, etc. etc. where as in a bigger rig, that is just not practical, or cost effective. I also save on parking!
So although I am torn about if and when I will buy a large forestry truck w/ a bucket most definitely if I do decide to go that route, its just not in the cards right now, and I've decided to wait and see.
I live 10 mins from Harvard Sq. and park in my driveway :rockn:
Believe me, I wish I had a yard! :popcorn:

Peace men

ps. I would like to learn more though. The fastest climber going up in the course was a 5'6" little Guatemalan dude who climbs for Savatree in Conn. Kid went to regional finals! He was ill. Looked like he was skating up the rope! I would like to learn something from you too :)
I've already started raising my prices ;) ...to 2,500 per day :D
Ok shewy mighty confident I will say, too a point that would make a good climber:censored:
I would like to clear up one thing, fast running through the canopy is not what makes a great climber. I have seen many fast climbers that I would not let on my jobsite. Fast means you are not taking enough time to safely piece down and cutting too many corners. I am 46 and been climbing 25 years, I am not slow but I don't cut corners. I do professional work with no bombing flower beds etc. I am fast but careful that is what makes a good climber one that retires someday. If ya really want to express your skill and sound more professional instead of sounding like a balloonhead the statement would be I may not be the best but I can climb with the best!
 
...If ya really want to express your skill and sound more professional instead of sounding like a balloonhead the statement would be I may not be the best but I can climb with the best!


Dude, thats not very nice! :( Did you even read my whole post? I know its long! Dude, I am chill dude man. I don't rush bad. I am very VERY safe, and deliberate in my actions. I'm just smooth my man! :rockn:
 
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just stated last year but ive been around tree work since i was in the womb my dad had his own business but i love climbing nd plan on making it my careernd im only 17
 
Thanks Old Chip. Thats a cool post. Thanks for the good post man.
Just do me one favor. With all due respect, stop topping trees. Its not acceptable practice in arboriculture any longer. Science has since proven that.

Sometimes you have just have to. We get a lot of lightning strike on the tallest trees and the heads can be three to four feet in diameter where the strike damage peters out. Best to get it off as within twenty years it will come down and the longer it goes the less likely anyone will want to touch it. Just had eighty feet come down off one last year almost on a golf course near my place. ( The base of the tree is about twelve feet) Besides, they make good birdhouses!:clap:
 
I have a niche in Cambridge, MA, and Boston, inner-city, however, where all streets are small, narrow, and crowded, and most jobs would otherwise need a police detail. But because I have a smaller truck, my truck and chipper is not only MUCH shorter, and we always find a way of parking in the city where bigger trucks wouldn't have a prayer, we can often back into driveways, and don't get harassed by cops when we are on the sidewalk, BECAUSE they WOULD REQUIRE a police detail if we had a forestry truck! :D

i cant tell you how many times weve been full crew, crane and buckets with chiptruck/chippers, in these parts of town with out police detail.

we get in anywhere.



betcha i could outclimb you.
 
Where I work in some places in San Diego, you cannot make noise until 10am, you cannot use a blower in city limits, you cannot smoke a cigarette, Parking is impossible. Hey, I bid in the price of parking tickets and a possible fine. I also check with city hall at times to see if I need a permit.
Jeff
(sometimes it is easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission)
 
Dude, thats not very nice! :( Did you even read my whole post? I know its long! Dude, I am chill dude man. I don't rush bad. I am very VERY safe, and deliberate in my actions. I'm just smooth my man! :rockn:

If you were smooth as ya say ya would not be saying it! I mean see if your good you don't need to convince no one you are. Frankly I don't give a ratz azz if I am considered good , great etc. I know what I can do and I would surprise ya if ya thought 46 was holding me back. Now do yourself a favor find a decent girl marry and settle down and let your actions speak for ya! :monkey:
 
Couldn't stand it today! Set the crutches at the base of the tree and played one legged treeclimber so I could try out my new hank of Velocity on an Ultratech distel. That's when Michael, my 4 yr old decided he needed a couple of aluminum spanners ( my crutches!) to build his bridge over the log jam in the driveway! I am going to have to get him a harness and a helmet next yr. If I have him "tied" to a tree then at least I will now what mischief he is getting into! My knee is a little sore but I feel like I worked off some of the softness that was creeping in. Come on May! It cannot get here fast enough.

Rope, lost a buddy that way. He didn't get thrown far enough... the car caught up with him. You notice how things move in slow motion when stuff like that happens?
 

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