treemandan
Tree Freak
Nothing personal Turnkey, I would say the same BS to anyone who posted pics like that.
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Clinical studies * that prolonged use of ladders in tree work leads to homosexuality. Now that is a fact you just can't argue with."
You left out a verb, so it is not an accurate statement. :jester:
And my wife is not a man; not close!
O and I'd've topped that bush out with the hayauche in about 3 minutes. :jawdrop:
O and outof, just because chainsaws are overrated does not mean I don't use them; they are there as a last resort. Using from ladders? very rarely and very cautiously and of course always tied in twice, right turnkey? :greenchainsaw:
You left out a verb, so it is not an accurate statement. :jester:
And my wife is not a man; not close!
O and I'd've topped that bush out with the hayauche in about 3 minutes. :jawdrop:
O and outof, just because chainsaws are overrated does not mean I don't use them; they are there as a last resort. Using from ladders? very rarely and very cautiously and of course always tied in twice, right turnkey? :greenchainsaw:
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treemandan
Tree Freak
For a swing, guy line, zip line, flag or whatever.
treemandan
Tree Freak
Sorry bout that typo but that is right out of the manual.
Does anyone here really think you could cut that with a pole saw?
Ed Roland
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Ladders can be very useful. Although, this is typical for my area. Not only does he rape this Sabal he does it unsafely.
DISCLAIMER: This photo SHALL not be sent to OSHA as a weapon to decrease my competition.
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DISCLAIMER: This photo SHALL not be sent to OSHA as a weapon to decrease my competition.
inside joke
Used to stand 6'. Dunno now as I am shrinking with age. Don't really understand how I am gettingshorter but the ground gets further away every time I bend over to pick up a piece of brush.
I was up a rung or two on that ladder. Was able to do the 'v' notch standing on the ground.
Harry K
The average ladder is 300mm wide. The limb in the picture is 1 1/2 times wider than the ladder. My stihl ht75 has 250mm of usable bar length. So as I said, cut it from either side and pop, off it comes.
I can cut that branch off with a polesaw just as fast as you can set up your ladder.
I have no objection to the proper use of a ladder its doing stupid things like running a rear handle saw from one that arcs me up.
One more observation. Given the distance from the ladder to the cut, either you one hand your saw or you lean out from the ladder.
Oh, that kind of pole saw. I was thinking the manual type. Done too many branches with one of those and have a bunch of real thin ones coming up to clean up my black walnut trunks again.
The ladder was in a different position, no leaning needed and no, I do not one'hand saws ever since I almost cut my thumb off 25 years ago.
Harry K
Well...I tie in the top of the ladder if I expect any 'bounce' the very few times I use it that way. Should tie myself in also.
Harry K
Ladders can be very useful. Although, this is typical for my area. Not only does he rape this Sabal he does it unsafely.
DISCLAIMER: This photo SHALL not be sent to OSHA as a weapon to decrease my competition.
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Now that looks like me back when I was young and very stupid. Still stupid at times but not "very" stupid.
Harry K
outofmytree
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Now that photo is how it should be done. If you are going to cut from a ladder make sure the pesky shirt doesnt get in the way of the ER medics stitching you back together.
Turnkey sometimes I am my own worst enemy. There are far better ways to get a point across than ramming it down someones throat. My apologies for being less than civil.
As to ladders..........
I have 2. I use them regularly. I am going to shut up now.
Turnkey sometimes I am my own worst enemy. There are far better ways to get a point across than ramming it down someones throat. My apologies for being less than civil.
As to ladders..........
I have 2. I use them regularly. I am going to shut up now.
TreEmergencyB
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i use ladders all the time sometimes quicker then throwin a rope or even if you set your line high wit the throw bag beats pulling ur self up 15 20 feet or so as i climb off the ladder ill saftey in and have the groundies move it then continue to do what i have to get to do
got an old 40' fireman ladder heavy but sturdy too
got an old 40' fireman ladder heavy but sturdy too
treemandan
Tree Freak
Wow! two days. I expected that barrage the first day..
Actually, the ladder was only used to get up one step for that big cut off. Only needed to get a bit higher than I could reach.
Believe it or not, a ladder can be safer than working from the ground. In this case it was as on the ground I would have been standing pretty much under that. I was only a stub about 12" long.
Ladders are not "instant death". I suppose you would have objected to my use of the 24' ladder to get my cable attached about 14' up there to pull it in the right direction also.
What, no "call a professional" for a simple job?
Harry K
Ok check this out ( a little from the mind of madness if I may?)
Me, as a climber, whose prime objective is to come out alive, am always re-enacting senerios in my mind. Always, really. A guy like me wants good clarity on many things, its going to come in handy. Sure I poke a little fun.
So anyway, what did you cut it with? Looks like you almost got 18 inch dia on the one. And the cuts look bad.
One rule of arial cutting is that you don't cut things like that while being under it. It doesn't hold true in every situation but in this case it looks quite like something you shouldn't do.
I looked at the pics and it seems you would have to be pretty tall if you cut from the first or second rung. I can only think a big saw could possible get through the limb fast enough so the butt drops without the weight of the tips ripping it slowly down and directing force towards you as you cut. maybe the limbs where not that long?
I seriously don't know how ya did it.
treemandan
Tree Freak
What I really think is that you went out on a limb and are really happy that what almost happened didn't.
Wow! two days. I expected that barrage the first day.
Actually, the ladder was only used to get up one step for that big cut off. Only needed to get a bit higher than I could reach.
Believe it or not, a ladder can be safer than working from the ground. In this case it was as on the ground I would have been standing pretty much under that. I was only a stub about 12" long.
Ladders are not "instant death". I suppose you would have objected to my use of the 24' ladder to get my cable attached about 14' up there to pull it in the right direction also.
What, no "call a professional" for a simple job?
Harry K
My very first laddder experience was terrible. It was after an ice storm and my boss sent me up the ladder to cut a limb hanging over a den. I had a rope through a crotch at the top of the tree and a man at the bottom. (I was green (about 6 months green) and my boss told us what to do. so I climb the ladder, get up to the top, signal to the other ground man. And started to make my cut. Here are the mistakes.
1) It was a poplar frozen.
2) had glair ice
3) the groundman at that time didn't have his dose of pills that day and wasn't level headed at all.
4) my boss put no thought in where the spread from the limb was going to go.
I cut the limb and about half way through it snapped. the ground man held the limb like he was supposed to but the spread swung down and hit the ladder and sent me flying. Broke my pelvis and my wrist. Was getting paid under the table so workmans comp couldn't give me anything. I was out for weeks with no income
It was jusdt a stub sticking out enough to interfere with my tall ladder I needed to get a cable attached.
Cut it with MS310 20". Easy reach from under to cut the shallow v-notch. May have been on 2nd rung, was not a 'level' cut but somewhat of an up angle. Not even close to being under it. Had debated cuttin it from the ground but that would have been under.
Yep, cuts would be bad for arborist work but this is for firewood. Finesse not needed to get rid of an obstruction.
Harry K
You would have to remind me of my disaster on a ladder. Don't do that anymore. Up a ladder about 6 ft cutting off a branch. Tip swung down, sprung the branch back, butt caught me in the chest and pushed me off the ladder. Other than getting the breath knocked out of me, no damage. Back when I was young and very stupid.
Harry K
outofmytree
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This was my point regarding a polesaw. If it can be cut from the second rung of a ladder with a rear handle saw that has a 20" bar then it can be cut from the ground with a Stihl ht75 or similar product.
Our rules are simple. When you are using a saw you either have both feet on the ground or you are in a harness.
OK that was then, this was now--and you are still cutting from a ladder without being secured to the tree.
Last week, back when you were Old and very...
O and now that I've dissed you, any luck with the pic of the clamped wood?
OK that was then, this was now--and you are still cutting from a ladder without being secured to the tree.
Last week, back when you were Old and very...
O and now that I've dissed you, any luck with the pic of the clamped wood?
So you think it is necessary to be tied to a tree 12" (approximately) off the ground? There is safety and then there is rediculousnous.
Ah!! Thanks for the reminder. I was out today and forgot to look for it. I'll dig it out of there tomorrow.
Harry K
