My answer for the flipcap problem.

[046]

still don't understand why Stihl would use such a piece of crap cap design on their equipment. surly they have heard the HUGE flood of negative comments from even loyal Stihl users.

putting a weak point on MS460 or MS260 makes no sense at all.

 

[Dale]

Prefer the older caps on my 028 Super, but haven't had any problems with the newer caps on my 361. Course, that may change.

One issue however that I don't care for is the depth the caps sit in the housing. Seems to allow dirt, dust to filter downward more easily.

 

[lone wolf]

still don't understand why Stihl would use such a piece of crap cap design on their equipment. surly they have heard the HUGE flood of negative comments from even loyal Stihl users.

putting a weak point on MS460 or MS260 makes no sense at all.

I'm thinking maybe something like a lawsuit or the likes scared them maybe some dufus threatened them i don't know but why would you put that consumer crap on a pro saw?someone email stihl and ask them.

 

[jd548esco72]

humm-- i have never had a problem with flippy caps.

i have had a few 440s, 460s and 290s that had them. i got rid of the 290 pretty quick--can't say if its flippies would have caused a problem or no.

the 440's and 460s saw lots of work. they never had a problem. i am choosy about my gas though--no ethanol/methanol ever!:greenchainsaw:

one of my pals fixe his flippy caps--he traded for a J-red!:jawdrop:

 

[Jtheo]

I'm thinking maybe something like a lawsuit or the likes scared them maybe some dufus threatened them i don't know but why would you put that consumer crap on a pro saw?someone email stihl and ask them.

I have seen it suggested on AS that Stihl put the flip caps on their saws after a lawsuit.

I am not sure that I believe that, but if it were the case, then now they have a cap that is dumping gas down someone's leg on what seems to be a regular basis.

The wrong set of circumstances could result in disaster and maybe a fatality.

The odds might be small, but Murphy's law says that if it can happen, it will.

Well anyway, I like Stihl saws, I just don't like the flip caps.

I probably would not like the caps if I could work them. Which I cannot.

I need to stop before I say too much. Hmmmm maybe I have already said too much.:deadhorse:

 

[boltonranger]

I remember reading someplace where there was a discussion about these caps and a rep for stihl said:
"Have you ever tried arguing with a German Engineer?"

I also seem to remember hearing that the reason they were not on the larger body saws was Stihl was using up their present stock until they switched over to the flip caps.

I wish I could recall where I read these snippets.
Anyone else remember hearing this sort of thing?
-br

 

[fishercat]

good point

my solution to flippy caps is to buy Husqvarna saws. Stihls that don't start with a 0 and end with a magnum are boat anchors anyway

I always liked the Stihl saws that started in 0 better. the 034,036,038,and 044 were awesome saws,with or without the flippy caps.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

i still do not see the issue with these caps,i have NEVER had to replace one of these. i think if you are ignorant enough to over fill fuel/oil,than you should expect to have problems. common sense would tell one that liquids do not compress well. they only go on & come off one way. i do not under stand why anyone would run fuel and oil all over their saw,must be trying to do a nascar style pitstop. i agree that you either love em', or hate em'. but to sell a saw cause of the fuel/oil caps, please. just my .02.........

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

Until you go out and run 8 tanks through a saw in 90 degree heat you will not fully hate flip caps. When screw caps are properly used just alittle snugging is all that is needed. NEVER use the screwdriver unless its really cold first thing in the morning when hands dont work that good. you can use the screwdriver slot on the cap as a referance so you know when they are good to go.
Nothing is worse than fiddeling with a flip cap while fighting the loosing battle of heat exaustion/stroke and just wanting to sit on your ass for 2 minutes before you go back at her. THEN to top it off, getting soaked in gasoline before lunch will make you beg for mercy, that **** hurts BAD!! Not painful but very uncomfortable is loosing your oil while the saw is running and looking like someone that has a thigh made out of one of those tastey cheese cake popsicles.

Why do yall think the 660 still has screw caps? Cause we will stop buying them if they put flip caps on them....

is it rocket science for a "pro" like yourself to use these??? i would think the 660/880 still have screw caps because they both are an older design. i really doubt 660 sales would suffer w/flippy caps. i would be willing to bet the replacement for both of those models will have them.

 

[056kid]

is it rocket science for a "pro" like yourself to use these??? i would think the 660/880 still have screw caps because they both are an older design. i really doubt 660 sales would suffer w/flippy caps. i would be willing to bet the replacement for both of those models will have them.

Far from it, this "pro" just dosent like them, like some other "pros" I know. If the 660 had flip caps I would have purchased a 390. It was a close run between the two of them in the first place for me. the 880 dosent have screw caps either, they are flippy. No one is cutting OG any more, 880 sales are slim... the 660 is the is stihls most popular saw for the "pros" and I have been told by "pros" that the reason they still have screw caps is that they are what the "pros" prefer. Dont be getting "quote un-quote" snotty with me right now, i lost the the fish of my season today and dont wanna see #### like "pro" haha soo funny I think Im a pro but im not. Even if I wasent trying to be, id still be a professional timber faller, its how I make my $$$ so kick rocks punk.

 

[STIHLTHEDEERE]

easy there "kitten", i think everyone on this here site knows who the "punk" is.......he he he

 

[056kid]

easy there "kitten", i think everyone on this here site knows who the "punk" is.......he he he

Yea im a punk, and I back up what I say. I thought I told you to kick rocks didnt I?

 

[Art Vandelay]

No doubt Stihl has lost a few sales. It's a shame such great saws are getting a bad rap because as something as silly as a flippy cap. Yet another engineer over thinking the most simple part on the saw.

 

[Jtheo]

i still do not see the issue with these caps,i have NEVER had to replace one of these. i think if you are ignorant enough to over fill fuel/oil,than you should expect to have problems. common sense would tell one that liquids do not compress well. they only go on & come off one way. i do not under stand why anyone would run fuel and oil all over their saw,must be trying to do a nascar style pitstop. i agree that you either love em', or hate em'. but to sell a saw cause of the fuel/oil caps, please. just my .02.........

This from the guy that called members here on AS a "bunch of idiots"

Now anyone who overfills the gas or oil tank is ignorant.

Such tact I have never seen before.:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Banacanin]

This from the guy that called members here on AS a "bunch of idiots"

Now anyone who overfills the gas or oil tank is ignorant.

Such tact I have never seen before.:hmm3grin2orange:

actually he called us saw homos, but since then people have called each other a heck of a lot worse on this site. I wish some of these argument/attack threads would go away.

 

[isaaccarlson]

I have finally noticed some wear on the oil cap o-ring on my 390. I have filled it sooo many times it is starting to wear....time to pull a new one out of my o-ring assortment and put it on. I think what happens is there is a little bit of sawdust on the o-ring and when you turn it it wears a little. No biggie.

 

[edisto]

actually he called us saw homos, but since then people have called each other a heck of a lot worse on this site. I wish some of these argument/attack threads would go away.

Bite me you sniveling turd.

 

[Banacanin]

:jawdrop:

 

[edisto]

:jawdrop:

Sorry...couldn't resist.

 

[Banacanin]

Sorry...couldn't resist.

That's what she said??