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Hello there I am Marc, I am a power line clerance trimmer. I am in the trees every day and love my job. I live in the mountains of colorado. I have been climbing for about two years now and am addicted to the Deistal hitch. I am looking to try something new in the friction hitch area, Would like to know more about a know called the "mishukan" (sp). I have seen it on a book and not sure if it will work for my application. I am using the arborplex rope that the company provides. I am using the eye-to-eye and a micro-pully. We climb aspen, pine, spruce and on occation some cotten woods. I use my climb line as a second lanyard. Once I am tied to the tree I have my climb line and my lanard ready to go. I use the climb line as a point of decent once I am in the top. It is wraped around the tree and back to my saddle. I know this is redundant for many of you and I appoligise for that. I would like to get a personal rope and use it at work. My main conceren with the mishacan is will it stop on a dime? When I am hangong over the power lines I need to know for a fact that this know will stop and not go untill I let it. Does it work as well as the Diestal. I am sorry for the babble but my life is on the line!!! Ha Ha Ha.
I am about 175lbs.
 
Welcome to the site Marc. glad to have ya.

I believe I have read about the knot you mention, though I do believe I saw it spelled differently, but I have never used it so I can't offer an opinion one way or the other. I personally climb on a VT but I had to fiddle with it a little while before I got it to bite real well. It stops on a dime every time for me now but that wasn't the case when I first tried it out. I definitely wouldn't want to be learning how to use it over lines.

I am climbing on Poison Ivy and have for a few years now. It's low stretch Kernmantle and is not quite as bouncy as Arborplex but not quite as stiff as a static line. It works well with ascenders. They also sell it under the name Bluemoon. It's made by Yale.

If you ar looking to check out some new knots here is a good site to check out. I bookmarked this one years ago and it's my go to resource when I am looking for knot info. The site belongs to one of our longtime, respected members here:

http://www.mytreelessons.com/

Again welcome. Stay safe. :cheers:
 
Glad ta meechya! You are allowed to use spell check and please buckle your seat belt because I have a feeling you are spiking trees to clear lines and you must defend yourself from guys like me. Welome aboard.
Jeff :)
 
jefflovstrom said:
Glad ta meechya! You are allowed to use spell check and please buckle your seat belt because I have a feeling you are spiking trees to clear lines and you must defend yourself from guys like me. Welome aboard.
Jeff :)
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Pretty accusatory there pops. Trailduster, I would immediately put some folks on ignore.
 
jefflovstrom said:
Glad ta meechya! You are allowed to use spell check and please buckle your seat belt because I have a feeling you are spiking trees to clear lines and you must defend yourself from guys like me. Welome aboard.
Jeff :)
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Jeffy, did you eat an extra bowl of stupid this morning?:jawdrop:
 
tree MDS said:
It's probably nap time for jeffers now.. but you're in for it goober!
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Did you ever notice one margarita isn't enough? Oh well, I am going back to the blender and then I am going to fire up that piece of crap motorcycle of mine and continue making ruts in my front lawn.
 
I think the knot name being discussed is the mitachoan. I'm not sure I've got it spelled correctly either. As TreeCo stated, it's basically a blakes tied with eye to eye tress cord.

I climb on it daily, and like it a bit better than the VT, but I haven't spent much time on a VT...

It can be a bit finicky to dress and set, but when done properly it grabs instantly and securely.
 
The knot that I seen was in the Sherrill tree mag. It was a drawing that thay had in there. I had to give a go at tying it and I think I have figured it out. I am just not sure of the speed at which it will grap and stop me. I will be getting me a new line soon and belive I will be getting the Poison ivy climb line. Is there a rope protector that will set in the crotch of the tree. One that the rope will eather glide over or threw? At the point where I am done with the tree how hard would it be to retrive said rope protector? Untill I can get more info on the (mishocan) knot, I will stick with the destil hitch. I know it and like the feel. I would just like to step out of the box and try something new! I will try the VT and see how it works for me. Yes I am using spikes. Not every time but yes we do use them. 90% of our work is in the national forest and therefore looks from a home owners point of view in not a real concern. We have had several conversations on using spikes and the higher ups dont really care one way or the other. Makes no sence to me but who am I to say any differant?!!! Now as far as a saddle goes, we are in the trees on a daily basis. comfort is the thing. Need lots of hangers and needs to be light weight. any suggestions?
Thanks for the input!
Marc
 
A figure 8 stopper knot in the end of your line is just perfect to retrieve a friction saver with rings. Would prolly be fine to retrieve a rope saver as well. I've never had any trouble retrieving mine. I have had it get caught in a narrow crotch when natural crotching. I have an eye splice in mine and it will hang in a tight one occasionally if I don't remember to give it a flip when I'm pulling it through. Very rare for that to happen though. The PI rope works well in both friction saver and a natural crotch. If you do a lot of Pines a rope saver would be a great investment though.

As far as saddles, we have debated then to death around here. Try doing a search for climbing saddle and climbing harness. Lots of material to read through on saddles around here.
 
tree md said:
A figure 8 stopper knot in the end of your line is just perfect to retrieve a friction saver with rings. Would prolly be fine to retrieve a rope saver as well. I've never had any trouble retrieving mine. I have had it get caught in a narrow crotch when natural crotching. I have an eye splice in mine and it will hang in a tight one occasionally if I don't remember to give it a flip when I'm pulling it through. Very rare for that to happen though. The PI rope works well in both friction saver and a natural crotch. If you do a lot of Pines a rope saver would be a great investment though.

As far as saddles, we have debated then to death around here. Try doing a search for climbing saddle and climbing harness. Lots of material to read through on saddles around here.
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Thanks for the info. I will look into the rope saver. I will also look up the saddles and do some reading. Thanks again.
Marc
 
jefflovstrom said:
I can sense your dislike in me. Whoop!
Jeff
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Now that's not true, I usually like how you come off as defensive all the time. It's entertaining.

Like trailduster2 said, if the higher ups don't give a rip on spiking live forest trees, why should anyone else, especially you?
 
trailduster2 said:
Hello there I am Marc, I am a power line I use my climb line as a second lanyard. .
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More important than your friction hitch since you already have a pulley slack tending set up is to get yourself a microcender set up for your lanyard. I use a bee line set up with an easy to open aluminum snap. You're out of touch if you do not have a camming device for a lanyard adjuster these days.
 
Welcome to AS.
Maybe the knot you are referring to is the one in the bottom of this picture.
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I don't have any information for you as I have not used that particular knot.
:cheers:
 

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