Granite Stater
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Since mine is apart at the moment - clutch hub ID: .75", key: 3/16", length of shaft for the clutch and keyed pulley bushing: 2.25". Pulley wears 1/2" belts.
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Since mine is apart at the moment - clutch hub ID: .75", key: 3/16", length of shaft for the clutch and keyed pulley bushing: 2.25". Pulley wears 1/2" belts.
Jules083
ArboristSite Operative
Mine's the same way, it's never stalled. Just popped out. Maybe if the splitter is slowed down it'll stop doing that, and actually stall the way it's supposed to.
I wish speeco would e-mail someone back or put out info through TSC about why they stopped selling them and what they are going to do to fix it.
BILLSFIREWOOD
ArboristSite Member
Hi jules 083. At your wib, tip in the SKU#FOR THE SPLITTER it was 1022655. Thay say ( sorry we could not find any product matches for your search). I am so glad I got my momy from them, and my DR Raped fire will be hear by friday. Thar is a 3 week and 4 days to get it wear.
philwillmt
ArboristSite Operative
I researched the DR owner's manual also, hoping to find a part number, and a description, for their clutch. Came up with the same number that you did, and although there is no description of the clutch, they have a very good diagram of it. The clutch housing looks to be about the same size as the SpeeCo one, but the dual sheaves look to be smaller. While scanning over their advertisement page and the specification page in their owner's manual, I noticed that the two did not agree...i.e. "1 log, 1 second" advertisement verses 3 second cycle time in spec sheet. And, flywheels "spinning at over 400 rpm" in advertisement verses maximum 400 rpm in spec sheet. That's just a couple of discrepancies that I picked out right away. Found that interesting! Not trying to get anything going with any of the DR owners who read this post...Lord knows there's way too much of that on this thread!!! Just found their advertisement interesting, to say the least! There's got to be somewhere one can find a smaller sheave diameter clutch readily available, and in stock!
qweesdraw
ArboristSite Operative
Better get one Quick! (if you even want one after reading this)
I called my local tractor place (Murdocs) that sells Speeco.
He made a call to find an ETA in this area.
Speeco told him they will no longer available due to major problems.(he said Speeco wouldn't give him any details)
A different model in about a year (possibly) is what i was told.
I was told Tractor Supply will not be getting anymore also.
I am kind of glad i waited.
(I hope all that have one have good luck with them)
Mark
I called my local tractor place (Murdocs) that sells Speeco.
He made a call to find an ETA in this area.
Speeco told him they will no longer available due to major problems.(he said Speeco wouldn't give him any details)
A different model in about a year (possibly) is what i was told.
I was told Tractor Supply will not be getting anymore also.
I am kind of glad i waited.
(I hope all that have one have good luck with them)
Mark
Schaaed1,
I am away from home right now for work but when I get home this weekend I would be glad to take the clutch off of my machine and have a look at it. I may be wrong but I think it is of the same design as the one on my mini bike I had when I was a kid, but that was a long time ago. This one has a two groove pulley and the mini bike had a sprocket, I really think it was a clutch that the sprocket was removed and a good welder attached a 2 groove pulley onto. I also think there is a shaft extension bolted onto the end of the engine crankshaft to support the longer bushing that is required for the extra length of the 2 groove pulley versus the short sprocket. I could take it apart and take some pictures of the parts and get my daughter to help me post them here if you guys think that may help you. I am a little computer challenged.
I am away from home right now for work but when I get home this weekend I would be glad to take the clutch off of my machine and have a look at it. I may be wrong but I think it is of the same design as the one on my mini bike I had when I was a kid, but that was a long time ago. This one has a two groove pulley and the mini bike had a sprocket, I really think it was a clutch that the sprocket was removed and a good welder attached a 2 groove pulley onto. I also think there is a shaft extension bolted onto the end of the engine crankshaft to support the longer bushing that is required for the extra length of the 2 groove pulley versus the short sprocket. I could take it apart and take some pictures of the parts and get my daughter to help me post them here if you guys think that may help you. I am a little computer challenged.
I have a question that I guess needs to be asked...
What is Speeco/TSC going to do about these problems?
It's great that many people are trying to come up with solutions, but it does seem like the manufacturer needs to step up. Speeco has a great reputation, so I hope they will come through...
After my initial post starting this thread, it sure took on a life of it's own. Who would have figured??
What is Speeco/TSC going to do about these problems?
It's great that many people are trying to come up with solutions, but it does seem like the manufacturer needs to step up. Speeco has a great reputation, so I hope they will come through...
After my initial post starting this thread, it sure took on a life of it's own. Who would have figured??
COUNTRY6543
ArboristSite Lurker
Well guys, I'm still dead in the water. Finally received an email from Shaun today at Speeco. He told me that they had received word late Friday that the replacement parts and an update kit is supposed to be ready around the first of the year. I can then take my machine back to my authorized service center and they will replace the parts. I sent one back that asked what I'm supposed to do until then. I thought about building weld up on the two broken teeth and then grind them to the angle as the rest and make it work to get by. Before I did this I called the service center (who I am also very goods friends with) and asked them about me fixing it and then getting the update. They told me that with all their Speeco items they work on, Speeco wants the failed part back so they can turn it in to their suppliers and get refunded. They told me that if I fixed it then I couldn't get the parts under warranty, So I am just sitting around with my thumbs up my butt. :msp_mad:
It was kinda funny, the email I got. I think it was a mass email because it told me that the rack and pinion jump out of gear and break the teeth and the update kit is supposed to fix this. Hahaha, That was the email I sent them explaining the problem and was told it was being forewarded to the enigineering dept. I am so glad that I am not as smart as their engineers! I applaud you guys for carrying the torch in my absence. Keep up the good work....
It was kinda funny, the email I got. I think it was a mass email because it told me that the rack and pinion jump out of gear and break the teeth and the update kit is supposed to fix this. Hahaha, That was the email I sent them explaining the problem and was told it was being forewarded to the enigineering dept. I am so glad that I am not as smart as their engineers! I applaud you guys for carrying the torch in my absence. Keep up the good work....
KiwiBro
Mill 'em, nails be damned.
The suits must cringe when they realise how many people they have exposed to the
kinetic splitter option, only for Speeco's incompetence to then drive those same people into the doors of competitors. If the fact they are letting people down and tarnishing their reputation isn't enough, it must be like rubbing salt into their self-inflicted wounds to know competitors are profiting nicely from their mistakes.
*edit* heck, it's nearly 42000 views on this thread! I bet Speeco would have rather each were viewing rapturous testimonials and recommendations rather than users determining the flaws for themselves in the vacuum left by Speeco PR and customer service.
I have to say some of you are showing remarkably more restraint than I would be if something I'd bought had failed and was going to leave me stranded for so long. Good on you good sorts.
kinetic splitter option, only for Speeco's incompetence to then drive those same people into the doors of competitors. If the fact they are letting people down and tarnishing their reputation isn't enough, it must be like rubbing salt into their self-inflicted wounds to know competitors are profiting nicely from their mistakes.
*edit* heck, it's nearly 42000 views on this thread! I bet Speeco would have rather each were viewing rapturous testimonials and recommendations rather than users determining the flaws for themselves in the vacuum left by Speeco PR and customer service.
I have to say some of you are showing remarkably more restraint than I would be if something I'd bought had failed and was going to leave me stranded for so long. Good on you good sorts.
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TFPace
ArboristSite Operative
Mark,
I was under the impression that TSC was the only retailer for the SpeedPro for the first year. The other SpeeCo dealers carry the rest of of the hydraulic splitters.
I understand that you are repeating what your guy (Murdocs) told you but I find it very usual that SpeeCo refers to their kinetic machine as having "major problems".
My contact at SpeeCo tells another story all together.:msp_unsure:
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Murdochs are numerous in CO. It was them I was referred to originally before I found out that they were a TSC only deal. I was told by Murdochs that they may be getting them next year. I have no idea if this is true or not.
Build Your Own Fast Splitter
Consider these options for hydraulic splitters:
(1) 2-stage pump (13 GPM at most).
(2) 3" cylinder (that's right, not a 4") with a 26" reach.
(3) 6.5 Hp Honda clone engine from Harbor Freight.
(4) Direct drive coupler from engine to pump.
(5) Auto return valve control.
Design the trailer, beam (for horizontal and vertical), tank, wedge, and hose it up yourself. Figure less than $1,200 and you will have all the power and speed that you need. Plus, you built it yourself.
Consider these options for hydraulic splitters:
(1) 2-stage pump (13 GPM at most).
(2) 3" cylinder (that's right, not a 4") with a 26" reach.
(3) 6.5 Hp Honda clone engine from Harbor Freight.
(4) Direct drive coupler from engine to pump.
(5) Auto return valve control.
Design the trailer, beam (for horizontal and vertical), tank, wedge, and hose it up yourself. Figure less than $1,200 and you will have all the power and speed that you need. Plus, you built it yourself.
Dozer Man
ArboristSite Operative
Not a bad build for a hydro!!!
You've got a good build going on there. The things I would change: 16 gpm pump, 4" cyl., and 9hp or more engine. It would still be a fast hydro. But the biggest problem I would still have is waiting on the ram to go in and out!!!! I just don't think I can go back to splitting with a hydro.
You've got a good build going on there. The things I would change: 16 gpm pump, 4" cyl., and 9hp or more engine. It would still be a fast hydro. But the biggest problem I would still have is waiting on the ram to go in and out!!!! I just don't think I can go back to splitting with a hydro.
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Denny - Thanks for that offer. Don't do it just on my count, I do not have any of the kenetic splitters. But I am interested in the thread, as I am thinking about the potential of building one.
If I would go that route, I would use some scrapped hit & miss engine flywheels, probably purchase replacement parts for the rack and pinion gears (not from Speeco, LOL) and go from there. I may even go clutch to jackshaft (would eliminate the need for the double V clutch) then jackshaft to flywheels with the belts. Or better than a centrifigual clutch ... maybe a viscuous clutch. Like I said ... just kicking around ideas.
well, we split a couple cords today and managed to shear the brass wear plate off the bottom of the ram plate. There were four tiny little screws/bolts holding it there. apparently three of them had walked their way out and only one was remaining... one hard strike and the wear plate is now not attached and it sheared the remaining bolt off. I've got to try to drill it out and retap all the holes to fix this unless I can get Speeco to send me a new ram plate. While we had it apart I took the pinion rack out and inspected it (after liberally greasing it this morning). it hasn't shown any more signs of wear since the last time I inspected it a few cords prior.
indiansprings
Firewood Purveyor
Not enough splitter there, 3" will not give the tonnage that you need, been down that road already, 13 gpm really not fast enough, 6.5 hp would be the absolute minimum, I've been down the splitter road more than once in the last few years. If I wanted to build one from scratch, it would have a 4.5" dia cylinder, 2" ram, 24" stroke 22 gpm pump 16 hp engine and where the coupler joined the engine I would have a device like a harmonic balancer weighing at least 20 lbs, balanced for extra mass to help keep the engine momentum up, I've seen it described as a hydraulic multiplier on Aussie sites and at least a 20 gallon hydro tank. I've tried different size cylinders on splitters in the past, you really seem to lose a lot of splitting power going from a 4.5 to a 3". If your ram size gets down to 1.5" I think you have the serious possibility of bending the ram.
Dozer Man
ArboristSite Operative
Just pointing out
Not trying to start and argument, but, aren't some Stihl saws made in germany or switzerland? I'm not knocking them, Stihl is all I run, I was just under the assumption that they were not 100% made in USA. Sorry, I just had to point that out and I could very well be wrong too.
Not trying to start and argument, but, aren't some Stihl saws made in germany or switzerland? I'm not knocking them, Stihl is all I run, I was just under the assumption that they were not 100% made in USA. Sorry, I just had to point that out and I could very well be wrong too.
sunfish
Fish Head
Some Stihl models are made in the US, some are made in Germany, some other places. But Stihl is a German company.
Same with Husqvarna, except Sweden instead of Germany.
sunfish
Fish Head
A good half dozen Stihl models are made here in Va. But I'm sure have lots of imported parts. They do provide a good many US jobs and this is good. Stihl also has factory's in other countrys.
Husky also makes 3-4 of their low-end saw models here (and other stuff), with the rest of the saws made in Sweden.
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