Thanks for the info. I think I am gonna go with the 441c. Was just concerned how durable the m- tronic system would be.
Someone challenged the wisdom of buying a 460 due to the irrational thought of why is Stihl discontinuing this model? No offense, but I would argue this is more reason to buy the 460. The 460 has been around a long time -- unfortunately too long in the eyes of the EPA folks. The new version will be a "greener" saw and it will undoubtly suck up less fuel than the 460; but it will also weigh considerably more than the 460.
So if power/weight ratio means anything to you, go with the 460 before they are discontinued. As far as being less green, just remember your farts contribute more to emissions than your chainsaw ever will. Now if the 461 comes out as a M-Tronic, that opens a whole new level of comparisons.
Not trying to sway your choice iaduckman - you can't go wrong with any of these elite saws.
Someone challenged the wisdom of buying a 460 due to the irrational thought of why is Stihl discontinuing this model? No offense, but I would argue this is more reason to buy the 460. The 460 has been around a long time -- unfortunately too long in the eyes of the EPA folks. The new version will be a "greener" saw and it will undoubtly suck up less fuel than the 460; but it will also weigh considerably more than the 460.
So if power/weight ratio means anything to you, go with the 460 before they are discontinued. As far as being less green, just remember your farts contribute more to emissions than your chainsaw ever will. Now if the 461 comes out as a M-Tronic, that opens a whole new level of comparisons.
Not trying to sway your choice iaduckman - you can't go wrong with any of these elite saws.
Can't remember if they were BOTH empty or full of fluids but here are the facts. Amazing isn't it? Perception is powerful....
I've only run a stock 441 (non M model) for a couple of cuts, it has a much more user friendly powerband than my 044. I do love my 044 for its lightweight handling abilities, but the 441 shows it's a more advanced saw IMHO. Now I do love my 460 and yes it has more power than the 441 by a good bit and if I were running a 32" bar often I go 460 instead. Since I just cut for firewood and not full time the 460 works fine for me but if I ran a saw for several hours a day, several days a week then I'd go 441 for the AV if nothing else.
ms460 = fast and fun cutting
ms441 = a more sensible and conservative approach
we have both saws at our work and if you are bucking firewood under 20" the 441 is the clear choice, 460 is wasted power imho and gets murdered in the fuel economy dept. that's observable fact. For what it's worth the 372xp lands smack in the middle and my back likes it better than the other two[/QUOT[/I]
I agree, dont limit your self to stihl( even tho thats all i own) but lots of good saws out there
Here's a video with a 461 from europe. Doesn't look much different then a 460.
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I have a Simonized ported 460 by far the meanest saw I've run. The thing just flat pulls like a freight train, it's no load rpm setting is 15,300. I did a before and after video on here with the same log and chain before and after, 40% faster than stock. I'll never sell the saw
gday indiansprings can you post a link of the vid please thinking of porting my 460
gee don't those 2 vids make the ms441 look real good
Well since the 441 is modded it should bve the stronger of the 3. The 461 doesn't look like it got a total revamp like the 441 when it came out.
indiansprings can you post a link of the vid please thinking of porting my 460
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