Worst nut job I've ever went to quote

[1project2many]

"VMI" and their lumber stored on your lot sounds like the simple consignment model we use in the auto repair business. It's harder to find these days because larger store chains want more control of what's out there with lower inventory costs, but once upon a time the parts manufacturers would set you up with racks of batteries, hoses, belts, tune up parts, etc and you didn't pay until they were used. Salesman comes by once a week, checks inventory, reorders, and bill comes from local office within a few days.

But!

We're paying for parts, not labor. We didn't use a part, we didn't pay for it. Mr. Professor seems to have missed this distinction. If I hire you to rake the yard, I'm paying for labor. Doesn't matter whether it's Oak leaves or Pine needles. If I hire you to remove a tree from over my garage, I'm paying you for labor. Doesn't matter whether the tree's leaning north or south. I hire you to cut, split, stack wood and I'm paying for labor. It doesn't matter what quality the wood is or how well it burns when you're done.

I have to admit I've worked for a few crackpots over the years. I've learned a lot of lessons the hard way when it comes to doing work for pay. A lot. On the plus side for the kid, he's gotten a lesson early on about how to do a deal. Ask when you'll get paid before you start working. Better to find out over $60 than $600 or $6000. Plus he's got dad to help now. Free muscle is better than hired muscle. Especially when it's rip-roarin' mad.

What's funny to think about for me is how quickly is the professor going to learn this real life lesson? Best chance he's got now is a "C" grade... if he calls up and apologizes for extra credit. But a wrong move with a couple more people might put him in the "slow learners" class for the rest of the time he lives there.

 

[logbutcher]

Am I the only bulb here to ask:

WHY ARE YOU EVEN DEALING WITH THIS ????????????????????????????????????????

Move on. Life is short, then you die.

 

[Constrictor]

"VMI" and their lumber stored on your lot sounds like the simple consignment model we use in the auto repair business. It's harder to find these days because larger store chains want more control of what's out there with lower inventory costs, but once upon a time the parts manufacturers would set you up with racks of batteries, hoses, belts, tune up parts, etc and you didn't pay until they were used. Salesman comes by once a week, checks inventory, reorders, and bill comes from local office within a few days.

But!

We're paying for parts, not labor. We didn't use a part, we didn't pay for it. Mr. Professor seems to have missed this distinction. If I hire you to rake the yard, I'm paying for labor. Doesn't matter whether it's Oak leaves or Pine needles. If I hire you to remove a tree from over my garage, I'm paying you for labor. Doesn't matter whether the tree's leaning north or south. I hire you to cut, split, stack wood and I'm paying for labor. It doesn't matter what quality the wood is or how well it burns when you're done.

I have to admit I've worked for a few crackpots over the years. I've learned a lot of lessons the hard way when it comes to doing work for pay. A lot. On the plus side for the kid, he's gotten a lesson early on about how to do a deal. Ask when you'll get paid before you start working. Better to find out over $60 than $600 or $6000. Plus he's got dad to help now. Free muscle is better than hired muscle. Especially when it's rip-roarin' mad.

What's funny to think about for me is how quickly is the professor going to learn this real life lesson? Best chance he's got now is a "C" grade... if he calls up and apologizes for extra credit. But a wrong move with a couple more people might put him in the "slow learners" class for the rest of the time he lives there.

Ok im not defending the original posters customers position, but i did just want to point out on your post that everything has labor in it. An auto part or belt has labor into it, just exactly like the firewood.
I am betting certain parts like an engine or anything that has a lot of machine time is mostly labor.

I would not give out firewood on VMI either for the record.

 

[Dozer Man]

Simple Solution !!!

Tell him you will agree to his terms IF.....
You get to take all the wood back to your place for storage/collateral. Leave him a cord to burn. Tell him when he runs low to call you to deliver more wood. Upon delivery, measure and charge him for what he has consumed, and a small agreed upon delivery fee. Then replenish his supply only after he pays for what he has consumed. He only pays for what he uses...he's happy. If he doesn't pay for what he used then you don't drop any wood, and you get to keep the rest of HIS wood...you're happy.

He will never agree to anything like this because it takes the "cards" out of his hand. In other words...he looses control of the situation. Either he's afraid of getting screwed by the locals, or he intends to screw them. Either way, as a service provider myself, I would be VERY glad that he showed his "hand" to you BEFORE you provided the service to him. Don't just walk away from this guy...RUN !!! If he raises a bunch of crap, tell him to take his hard earned cash to the local farm store and by a chain saw and a splitter.

I can't wait to hear what the dad does!!! We want some good details on that one !!!

Great post Indiansprings!!! Lmao!! :msp_thumbsup: :msp_thumbsup:

 

[blackdogon57]

In the corporate world "the customer is always right" . I spent many years kissing butt while working for a big company. Most people are great to deal with but you run into the occasional customer who cannot be satisfied no matter what you say or do. The good thing about being self employed is that you get to pick and choose who you deal with. Not that i make a habit of it, but sometimes it feels great to tell an idiot like the professor to go _______ them self.

 

[WadePatton]

Am I the only bulb here to ask:

WHY ARE YOU EVEN DEALING WITH THIS ????????????????????????????????????????

Move on. Life is short, then you die.

because venting is necessary, and revenge (letting every other local wood-cutter _and_ small engine shop know about dude) is fun. When every cutter w/in 30 miles says: you pays me now or i don't start my saws, then he learns how it works.

never move in and piss off the locals. i moved out _one_ county, been here 10 years and still recognize my own "not raised up here" ness. i blend in pretty good though...'specially to outsiders.

I'm glad this was posted because, being "of degree", I might find some "scholarly dipsiht" to sell wood to. When I do, I will not unload until paid. I'll over-deliver quantity and quality, but at my price and schedule.

 

[branchbuzzer]

Just went to the grocery store and at the checkout I told them "I'm not paying for this until I eat it!" They told me that was AOK with them, just stop back by when you're ready.

Now that I set a spell on the store loafer bench, I guess I should have said "...after I eat it and enjoy it." That way I know it's a quality product...

 

[logbutcher]

because venting is necessary, and revenge (letting every other local wood-cutter _and_ small engine shop know about dude) is fun. When every cutter w/in 30 miles says: you pays me now or i don't start my saws, then he learns how it works.

never move in and piss off the locals. i moved out _one_ county, been here 10 years and still recognize my own "not raised up here" ness. i blend in pretty good though...'specially to outsiders.

I'm glad this was posted because, being "of degree", I might find some "scholarly dipsiht" to sell wood to. When I do, I will not unload until paid. I'll over-deliver quantity and quality, but at my price and schedule.

Too much time on someones' hands. Too little to keep your noses out of O.P.'s ( Other People's ) butts.

This "venting", this "revenge", not on my watch, not on any team I'm with or leading. What a f'n waste of cerebral and physio energy. And yes, I'm proud to be a "scholarly dip####". ( Insert song here :eek2: ) :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

It's definately a Darwin Award nomination to even deal with those kinds OR ( OR ) those enjoying playing with them and headcases. Sweat, get your labor in order, sell for a fair price to whoever pays. Live. You're not Freud.

Damn, I'mma hearin' Banjos Emma....................

JMNSHEO

P.S. The man said: "In the service business we are in...you meet all kinds! This is the busy part of the firewood business and I haven't much time for problem customers...wish him good and move on to the next job without looking back! "

 

[Dozer Man]

Too much time on someones' hands. Too little to keep your noses out of O.P.'s ( Other People's ) butts.

This "venting", this "revenge", not on my watch, not on any team I'm with or leading. What a f'n waste of cerebral and physio energy. And yes, I'm proud to be a "scholarly dip####". ( Insert song here :eek2: ) :hmm3grin2orange::hmm3grin2orange:

It's definately a Darwin Award nomination to even deal with those kinds OR ( OR ) those enjoying playing with them and headcases. Sweat, get your labor in order, sell for a fair price to whoever pays. Live. You're not Freud.

Damn, I'mma hearin' Banjos Emma....................

JMNSHEO

Ain't that why we are all on here today?? Nibchittin into o.p.b. (other people's butts) and givin opinions is half the fun!!! I been laughing my arse off since I been readin it!! Still Lmao!!

Hmmm dat is a banjo idn't it? :msp_razz: oke:


sorry....couldn't help it

 

[spike60]

Most college professors = educated fools.

"College professors live in a world where ideas don't have to work."..Thomas Sowell

 

[c5rulz]

I worked 31 years at a State run University before retiring 21 glorious months ago. The behavior of this Proffessor doesn't surprise me a bit. Some Professor's are ignorant, some are arrogant, but when you put the two together, your really have a combination.

 

[RVALUE]

Under his terms, IF you were a painter, you'd be paid while the paint dries.

You may take the case with that one.

 

[sunfish]

One of my best friends is a collage professor.

But he's a rare bird and a get-r-done, hard working kind of guy.

 

[RVALUE]

:monkey:

 

[slowp]

I guess I could dig through my pictures and scan a photo of a college prof setting chokers, and teaching us about rigging up a Koller yarder.

Those guys loved what they taught....Forest Engineering at OSU (Oregon State). Imagine this. One guy who taught economics told us that there were only two things worth going into debt over, education and a house.

Now I had the opposite problem. A kid moved equipment in, cut down a tree that took longer to do than he thought, and then would not accept payment! The tree had to be coaxed with an excavator so as not to hit the house.

I delivered a kayak to him.

 

[Tim L]

Most professors went to school, became indoctrinated and then taught school making them liberal idiots on the threshold of communism. Are there exceptions ? Sure there are, but by and large they are smug superior jackasses that couldn't get by their raging incompetence without tenure(don't even get me started on that). So if in our experience most of us have as much respect and contempt for them as they have for us don't be surprised at the general perception. Much like lawyers, there is a reason there is so many jokes about them.Because it's true.

 

[Dozer Man]

Professor??

Professors??? I though we were bxxxxin about some old retired guy that moved to a new area where he thought he would be smarter than everyone! And he came up with some lame brain idea of getting work done on his property without having to pay for the service until he felt like it!!

I didn't know we were just bashing teachers, I'm sorry, I meant professors! That's totally different. Who needs teachers, I mean Professors. We would all be a lot smarter without them! I think....well....idk....

Lmao!!

 

[logbutcher]

Prozac

Most professors went to school, became indoctrinated and then taught school making them liberal idiots on the threshold of communism. Are there exceptions ? Sure there are, but by and large they are smug superior jackasses that couldn't get by their raging incompetence without tenure(don't even get me started on that). So if in our experience most of us have as much respect and contempt for them as they have for us don't be surprised at the general perception. Much like lawyers, there is a reason there is so many jokes about them.Because it's true.

Now Timmy, let me get technical and professorial here: you're talking thru your butt. True methane ! :hmm3grin2orange:

Give names, places you actually know for a fact that all those "..liberal idiots on the threshold of communism" are of that persuasion. C'mon, give. Have you ever ( right hand in the air, not where it is right now otstir: ) honestly knew or met or spoke with about their C.V. and ideology ? Sorry, getting too professorial here "C.V." = Curricula Vitae or resume in your terms. Let's have a count with specifics. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9.

This rant sounds like a Timmy projection ( professorial tenured determination :msp_unsure of your "..raging incompetance.." , self hate, "smug superior jackasse(s)" B.S. methanic blowhardhood (professorial analysis ). PM me for a referral. :hmm3grin2orange:

P.S. Surprised that you even know about tenure with all that methane. Hey, we agree on one thing- tenure !

 

[Hank Chinaski]

two words:
panties
inawad


did I pass the test prof?




:hmm3grin2orange:

 

[Dozer Man]

True colors???

Dangit Tim, you got us all in trouble!!!