Question on a man purse :) while working on the rigging?

[HorseFaller]

If your chasing you can heat your food up on the manifold of the yarder, cans of soup work best. I warmed up a spam single on my shovel manifold once, the trick with that is getting it to stay put.

The fact is watch and observe. Eyes ears open and mouth shut.

 

[slowp]

You have a point. It probably wouldn't be the best choice if something better was available. If I was mowing lawns and trimming shrubbery in Kansas City and had a 7-11 store on every other corner I'd go with whatever I could quickly grab off the shelf.

But if I'm working twenty miles from the nearest paved road and fifty miles from the nearest town and I don't happen to have any medicine with me I'll probably grab some dirt. Clay is preferable.

You might prefer to suffer a bad case of the explosive trots. Most people wouldn't.

So, ever tried pummy and volcanic ash? I would think it might tend to do a bit of scouring.

 

[Slamm]

Wow, is diarrhea that prevelent in you guy's work place that you have to bring products in to fight it off or experiment, to the point of knowledge and experience, with different dirt eating method, LOL. In all my years, I've never personally experienced job or work inhibiting bowel movements, never even heard of it as a problem, LOL, ...... must be eating and living right.

This is interesting, LOL,

Sam

 

[slowp]

Wow, is diarrhea that prevelent in you guy's work place that you have to bring products in to fight it off or experiment, to the point of knowledge and experience, with different dirt eating method, LOL. In all my years, I've never personally experienced job or work inhibiting bowel movements, never even heard of it as a problem, LOL, ...... must be eating and living right.

This is interesting, LOL,

Sam

It seems to be. I've had to dodge many a "land mine" while checking logged areas. One has to be extremely careful on the edges of the units, where there is cover, but it is close to the logging. A lot of it has to do with beer and alcohol consumption. It was the alky chaser who was pooping where the yarder was going to be set up next. He'd also poop in the trail that I used to get down into the unit. My stomach got pretty tough.

One guy was pointing out how his poop looked quite healthy. His dad took him aside and he got handed a shovel and chewed out. That was unusual, but his dad is a pretty clean guy and meticulous in his work and maintenance of the equipment.

They leave at such an early time in the morning. The body's clock and system take a while to kick in. Where I worked, most of the guys drove from the I-5 corridor and they would be on the road for one and a half or two hours--one way. The unwritten rule is no burying and leave a good wad of TP on it so it is visible and not likely to be stepped on. A guy I worked for lost his cookies when he stepped on a pile where somebody had just kicked dirt on it to hide it. He slipped and fell.

There are no gas stations or McDonalds or anything for miles. I am predicting that in the future, after an 'ologist has stepped on a mine, or a person in management, that little blue houses will be required on landings.

It is now a requirement that the mushroom and huckleberry pickers have a porta potty in their camps. However, after cleaning up one area, I don't think they used it. :sick:

Well, I've grossed myself out.

 

[Gologit]

In all my years, I've never personally experienced job or work inhibiting bowel movements, never even heard of it as a problem, LOL, ...... must be eating and living right.



Sam

Wait.

 

[Humptulips]

O ya bag your tp and stuff on a pocket. Or forget it and just use your pocket/s sleeves socks or spare gloves if needed. Leave the rest on the landing and grab a snack between road changes. The side im on we don't stop to eat. You eat on the way there and way home, snack on road changes. I brought a lunch box once and now have the nickname "Lunchbox". Be carefull what you do or say it may be what you end up being identified by.

So when did this thing about not stopping for lunch start. It seemed to pop up in the last few years of my steady logging. Before that everyone stopped for a half hour for lunch except the cutters which we know just go home at lunchotstir:
I just can't make it a full day without something to eat and that eating on the fly sucks big time. Always seemed like it cut into production to me also. Nothing like a half hour rest and something to eat to recharge for the second half of the day.

 

[Gologit]

So when did this thing about not stopping for lunch start. It seemed to pop up in the last few years of my steady logging. Before that everyone stopped for a half hour for lunch except the cutters which we know just go home at lunchotstir:
I just can't make it a full day without something to eat and that eating on the fly sucks big time. Always seemed like it cut into production to me also. Nothing like a half hour rest and something to eat to recharge for the second half of the day.

:msp_biggrin: The cutters go home at lunch because they work so hard, are so efficient, and get so much done that they don't need to be hanging around all day just to make things look good. :msp_biggrin:

Most places I see, the crew stops for lunch...usually half an hour. The only guy that doesn't is the shovel operator if he has trucks in the slip that need to be loaded. Most of the truckers are savvy enough not to show up right at lunch time, though. A grumpy, food deprived shovel operator that got his lunch delayed or interrupted might put on a load that the driver will remember for awhile.

 

[Tillamook]

Thanks For all the replys! I appretiate it! I think I will re think the purse and maybe just bring a lunch box. I like the idea of waiting and seeing what I need then if I need something else bring it. I think I am just overthinking the whole thing. Thanks a bunch for all the help!

 

[Humptulips]

:msp_biggrin: The cutters go home at lunch because they work so hard, are so efficient, and get so much done that they don't need to be hanging around all day just to make things look good. :msp_biggrin:

Funny thing is it didn't used to be that way. Kind of before my time but my Dad says the cutting crew always worked the same hours as everyone else. Remember also my Dads Stepfather was busheler and he said they worked 8 hour days and longer before the advent of unions. My Dad cut for a while and worked 8s. He was running a two cylinder Titan so it goes back a few years but I find it hard to believe it was easier work.

 

[hammerlogging]

tillamook, despite your best intentions, I'd have to agree, you are overthinking all this. Just don't show up too perfect.

I prefer buried, but with a tp flag.

I think a faller with a good work ethic or busheling will get the same amount done in 6 1/2 hrs as 8 or 8 1/2 hrs, safer too.

 

[pdqdl]

You have a point. It probably wouldn't be the best choice if something better was available. If I was mowing lawns and trimming shrubbery in Kansas City and had a 7-11 store on every other corner I'd go with whatever I could quickly grab off the shelf.

But if I'm working twenty miles from the nearest paved road and fifty miles from the nearest town and I don't happen to have any medicine with me I'll probably grab some dirt. Clay is preferable.

You might prefer to suffer a bad case of the explosive trots. Most people wouldn't.

I would prefer to NOT catch something worse than explosive trots. I could tell you so much about what you might catch, but the worst risk is from any number of nematode parasites carried to the soil by woodland creatures scat.

No, you won't get bear hookworms, but you very well might have dog hookworm larvae wandering around in your body until the little worms discover you are not a dog. Ancylostoma caninum; look it up for yourself.

Toxoplasmosis comes to mind; transmitted by cats, people get it too. Toxoplasmosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then there are all the tapeworm eggs that exist in the wild; almost all are waiting in the soil for some host to swallow. Most are very specific to a certain species, but that doesn't mean that they won't hatch in your guts and cause problems for a while. The eggs last for years, so don't presume that dirt not covered with turds are safe.

Ever hear of salmonella poisoning? Your explosive trots will only be accelerated by adding soil contaminated with bird droppings.

There are lots of other good reasons why eating dirt isn't a good idea.

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BTW; This thread was started by a guy that wanted to come prepared into the work areas 50 miles from town. He asked for recommendations for what to bring. He did NOT ask for stupid home remedies.

I offered constructive advice; I only said that eating dirt was not a good idea. Eating dirt? Why didn't you just suggest that he goes down to the local sex shop and buy a nice big butt plug? That might stop him up better.

Don't be a #### and try talking down to me because you think I am some lawn monkey that never gets outside the city limits.

 

[HorseFaller]

In all honesty. Any thread that starts with the words, "Man Purse" is going to have some sarcasm with it. The replys giving are only opinions or suggestions. Take them how you feel.

Thank you on the parasite info. I'm a little more freaked out about them then I was before. You see I shoe horses as well and often bits of dirt and other organic and foreign material does fly into mouth sometimes. I know feel like I should worm myself next time I worm my own horses.

 

[pdqdl]

Most all of the "worm" parasites can only mature in their true host, so don't worry. If your horses are mucking about in some backwater local without indoor plumbing, you might have some concerns about tapeworms, roundworms, etc. You are very unlikely to get any adult parasites from anything but human feces.

Many of the worm parasites enter our bodies through our mouths, then they become a tiny little worm that perforates our gut and wanders around our bodies until it gets to it's final resting place. This may be your bladder, your muscles, your gut, your skin, or any number of organs. Generally, if you get infected by a non-human parasite, the larvae dies when it tries wandering around in your body, 'cause it doesn't have the right stuff to survive in the wrong host. This doesn't mean, however, that you can't get some nasty problems from the infection.

Furthermore, most of the doctors in our modern culture never see parasite diseases, so they are generally unskilled at diagnosing them.

Here is a good one to look up: echinococcus multilocularis. Nasty, horrible little bug. Just imagine how much you prefer to #### your pants than catch hydatid disease from munching some dirt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echinococcus_multilocularis

"If no specific therapy is initiated, in 94% of patients the disease is fatal within 10–20 years following diagnosis.[6]"

 

[pdqdl]

Here is where you are likely to catch this from fox turds:

 

[pdqdl]

Still want to eat some dirt?

There are hundreds of nasty little bugs you can catch from the soil. There is a pretty good chance that you caught the trots from one of your buddies, who may have been contaminating the same area the day before you dug up a nice handful of dirt, too.

 

[pdqdl]

I been studyin. Apparently humans may have been found to get dog hookworms from ingesting the larvae. Just one more reason to save the dirt for the garden, instead of the dinner table.

Experimental human infection with the dog hookwor... [Med J Aust. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI


"CONCLUSIONS:

Our findings suggest that, following ingestion, some infective larvae of A. caninum develop directly into adult worms in the human gut (as they do in dogs)."

 

[pdqdl]

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A lot of the rural old school natives in aus still eat dirt. ...

Apparently, dog hookworm infection of humans in N australia is somewhat common.
Seasonal influence on human enteric infect... [Am J Trop Med Hyg. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI


The researchers were unclear as to why humans would be getting infected. Maybe this is why they are getting infected: they need some imodium, but they are swallowing dirt, instead!

 

[marimus]

Apparently, dog hookworm infection of humans in N australia is somewhat common.
Seasonal influence on human enteric infect... [Am J Trop Med Hyg. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI
[/I]

Would a dose of Ivermectin or any of the macrocyclic lactones clear those little buggers out?

 

[imagineero]

Now listen here lawn monkey, you need to get away from your computer and get outside the city limits a little more.

 

[RandyMac]

That is a bit overboard. I have inhaled and ingested plenty of incidental dust, dirt and mud, from all kinds of places, never got any nasties.
Must be lawn soil that has the buggers in it.