The Chicom knock-off industry...

[windthrown]

Fake saws, INC:

Tree sixxy five! Soupa cheep! Oh nine ohs, evin betta!

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=Chainsaw+&catId=&initiative_id=SB_20131122011351

 

[ReggieT]

Is anybody with cat sense even buying these saws? I heard they were just flat out dangerous and poorly made....

 

[SawTroll]

Is anybody with cat sense even buying these saws? I heard they were just flat out dangerous and poorly made....

Not everyone out there understand they are worthless sub-standard fakes!

 

[windthrown]

I have a friend in Oz that bought one of the Stihl look-a-like saws. The Chicom crap saws are legal to buy/sell there. Cost him about $60 AUD. Basic issues with the saws were that the quality is really low (poor tolerances), they do not last very long before breaking, and they cannot really be fixed so they are basically throw-away saws.

For a long time they were advertising these on Craigslist here. You could 'direct import' as many saws as you wanted for like $50. Lakeside Andy posted about them here. I do not see those ads any more.

 

[splitpost]

Not everyone out there understand they are worthless sub-standard fakes!

Thats pretty much what andreas stihl said when husky opened their doors and started selling knock offs

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[splitpost]

I have a friend in Oz that bought one of the Stihl look-a-like saws. The Chicom crap saws are legal to buy/sell there. Cost him about $60 AUD. Basic issues with the saws were that the quality is really low (poor tolerances), they do not last very long before breaking, and they cannot really be fixed so they are basically throw-away saws.

For a long time they were advertising these on Craigslist here. You could 'direct import' as many saws as you wanted for like $50. Lakeside Andy posted about them here. I do not see those ads any more.

Even though they are of a poor quality they do serve there market well ,not every weekend firewood warrior can justify dropping big bucks on a name brand saw for a few trailer loads of wood a year

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[SawTroll]

I have a friend in Oz that bought one of the Stihl look-a-like saws. The Chicom crap saws are legal to buy/sell there. Cost him about $60 AUD. Basic issues with the saws were that the quality is really low (poor tolerances), they do not last very long before breaking, and they cannot really be fixed so they are basically throw-away saws.

For a long time they were advertising these on Craigslist here. You could 'direct import' as many saws as you wanted for like $50. Lakeside Andy posted about them here. I do not see those ads any more.

There are sort of two classes of the Chicom fakes - the ones that basically is a copy of some Stihl or Husky model - and then there are the much worse ones that are sold in any color you want, and then are equipped with decales that indicate they are Husky or Stihl saws (very common in the UK market).

 

[7sleeper]

Depending on the chicom fake it is typical for them to copy actual a very good japanese saw.

7

 

[GrassGuerilla]

If your expecting something that isn't quite as well made as a modern Homelite, you'll be thrilled. If your hoping to get a creamsicle or rabid dog for $50... Well. Not so much.

Somebody must be buying them.

 

[SawTroll]

Th

If your expecting something that isn't quite as well made as a modern Homelite, you'll be thrilled. If your hoping to get a creamsicle or rabid dog for $50... Well. Not so much.

Somebody must be buying them.

There always are an ample supply of idiots around - lack of those never is a real problem.....

 

[SawTroll]

Depending on the chicom fake it is typical for them to copy actual a very good japanese saw.

7

An outdated Zenoah design, as I know it - and the copy is really bad, the materials worse.....

 

[GrassGuerilla]

Th


There always are an ample supply of idiots around - lack of those never is a real problem.....

Lol, ya'll have your own idiots too? Or do you just count on our village to supply those?

Trust me, we have plenty to share...

 

[J.Walker]

Thanks to some past threads here I was aware of the fake 365's and what serial number to expect.
Well there was a new in the box one listed on the local CL. When I went to look at it the serial number was the first thing I checked. The seller just played dumb at that point.

 

[sachsmo]

I am guilty of buying not one but two Honda ripoffs.

The first was a 389cc 13 HP that went on me old Bolens.

It took a lickin' until the Govenor froze up on it whilst blowing snow.

She ran for 'bout 15 minutes at over 5000 RPM, boy was that **** casting a far bit.

I replaced it with a HF 420cc, $270 out the door!

 

[7sleeper]

An outdated Zenoah design, as I know it - and the copy is really bad, the materials worse.....

But still a great saw design in it's days! Sure is funny that they didn't choose a Husqvarna or Stihl if those designs were so superior!

And the quality depends on the manufacturer. There are some adequate ones but I agree most are substandard. But of course your major complaint is that the weight is to high for their output.

7

 

[sachsmo]

I will agree with troll,

The chinese stuff is hit or miss.

The materials are the big thing, the "plastics" on your better OEMs are not plastic at all.

I know dolmar has used a glass filled type for years.

Bet some of those Chinese ones use the same stuff they make the Happy Meal toys from.

 

[shootingarts]

As Pogo said, We has met the enemy and he is us! Any moronic company that has a chinese company manufacture something or any component of something for them deserves what happens because it is clearly spelled out in chinese law! If a chinese company manufactures anything or any part of anything, when the contract ends for any reason the chinese company is entitled to keep making the item and use the other people's brand name! If they make a component they can now make the complete item! If you wonder how far they take that, simply look at the chinese ford and chevy pick-up trucks made in china. They do rebrand these but use very similar logos and such. Another thing, manufacturing anything in china is giving them the technology. We can't manufacture serious military stuff there although we do in japan. However, we can have major components of civil aviation airplanes manufactured there. Some of those airplanes used some advanced materials and techniques known only to us and used in US fighter jets! Yep, we gave them our latest and greatest technology to make an extra buck! Same with electronics and such.

Technically the stuff that is manufactured by a chinese company after a contract ends and labeled with the original brand information can only be sold in china. However they can manufacture and label these things in legitimate factories right in front of God and man. Only when they leave china do they become illegal. The chinese government doesn't make real efforts to stop export, positive trade flow always welcomed!

We pay a very high price for saving a buck. Like it or not, every one of us buys some stuff made in china too. Sometimes it is the only choice, sometimes financial constraints lead to something needed for a one time job coming from there. I have to admit that if I am going to buy something from Taiwan I'm not going to pay $20,000 for it to say Bridgeport on the side of it instead of $4500 for it to say Jet. Neither one is equal to a pimple on the butt of my Bridgeport J-head that I owned that was the same age I was. The J-head was a light duty machine when built too.

If it wasn't for the shipping being equal to the sale price I have to admit I'd be tempted to buy one of the 105cc saws just to sit on the shelf. They make something to appeal to all of us. Not going to happen though. At over five hundred dollars sooner or later I'll be able to buy a real 100+cc saw and rebuild it. Then I'll have some pride in what's sitting on the shelf.

Hu

 

[Yukon Stihl]

The problem with stuff made in China is they have found a new element,needs to be added to the periodic table of elements.It is a rare element and has only been found in Asia.
Chineseemum.
It can be and does get added to everything, and anything.I believe it's Chinese law that anything exported has to contain at least 15 %.
It turns rubber into not really rubber
Plastic into not really plastic
Aluminum into not really aluminum
Steel into not really steel
Stihls into Huskys,just kidding,anyhow you get the picture.
Thomas

 

[ozflea]

As Pogo said, We has met the enemy and he is us! Any moronic company that has a chinese company manufacture something or any component of something for them deserves what happens because it is clearly spelled out in chinese law! If a chinese company manufactures anything or any part of anything, when the contract ends for any reason the chinese company is entitled to keep making the item and use the other people's brand name! If they make a component they can now make the complete item! If you wonder how far they take that, simply look at the chinese ford and chevy pick-up trucks made in china. They do rebrand these but use very similar logos and such. Another thing, manufacturing anything in china is giving them the technology. We can't manufacture serious military stuff there although we do in japan. However, we can have major components of civil aviation airplanes manufactured there. Some of those airplanes used some advanced materials and techniques known only to us and used in US fighter jets! Yep, we gave them our latest and greatest technology to make an extra buck! Same with electronics and such.

Technically the stuff that is manufactured by a chinese company after a contract ends and labeled with the original brand information can only be sold in china. However they can manufacture and label these things in legitimate factories right in front of God and man. Only when they leave china do they become illegal. The chinese government doesn't make real efforts to stop export, positive trade flow always welcomed!

We pay a very high price for saving a buck. Like it or not, every one of us buys some stuff made in china too. Sometimes it is the only choice, sometimes financial constraints lead to something needed for a one time job coming from there. I have to admit that if I am going to buy something from Taiwan I'm not going to pay $20,000 for it to say Bridgeport on the side of it instead of $4500 for it to say Jet. Neither one is equal to a pimple on the butt of my Bridgeport J-head that I owned that was the same age I was. The J-head was a light duty machine when built too.

If it wasn't for the shipping being equal to the sale price I have to admit I'd be tempted to buy one of the 105cc saws just to sit on the shelf. They make something to appeal to all of us. Not going to happen though. At over five hundred dollars sooner or later I'll be able to buy a real 100+cc saw and rebuild it. Then I'll have some pride in what's sitting on the shelf.

Hu

Well I have pride in my chinese knockoff's and saved a buck or two along the way.





McBob

 

[shootingarts]

Well I have pride in my chinese knockoff's and saved a buck or two along the way.





McBob

Right now you are getting the ones Stihl is making or assembling in china. Wait until the chinese are the ones in control of the manufacturing process and tell me you are just as proud of those saws.

Hu