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jamin alegre

jamin alegre

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Sir,
I apologize to be the one to have to point this out, but u'r doing it completely ass-backwards. You should first cut the tree down, then you cut the limbs off. It may take some getting used to, but you'll get much more wood to the mill that way
That was the only limb I pieced out of 6. I set my rigging at top center and cut 40' + branches from the ground. I tied rope at top cut clean through let base of cut hit ground to take weight of rigging grabbed it w/ log truck and laid it down. Had it down in a day and stump the following day.
Mill is far from me 2-3hrs so I have stockpile and pick and choose what I am keeping. That was a silver maple is there any $ in that
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jamin alegre

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Sir,
I apologize to be the one to have to point this out, but u'r doing it completely ass-backwards. You should first cut the tree down, then you cut the limbs off. It may take some getting used to, but you'll get much more wood to the mill that way
734354_10202385177968524_1769125265_n.jpg 1239125_10202385148567789_988431763_o.jpg I was my last limb needed center of tree to rig down branch ? So how was I supposed to cut down tree first , then you cut the limbs off, each limb was a tree I filled this truck 3 times full of wood. Thats how big this tree was in between wires and over 2 houses.
This is truck I filled
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jamin alegre

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yup, get the hinge to fold until it breaks then the face closes completely.
I spider legged that limb. Put box toward my left/away from me. I have my guy let it come down till piece is level to 15% below level max. Or until piece starts turning once hinge pops or piece breaks off drop it below my feet. By doing it this way there is very little hit on ur rope or rigging very smooth and controlled
 
bitzer

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Gotta love them arborists... Anyway... Colton not bad. That a 24" bar you runnin then? Once you get used to a longer bar it opens up a whole new world. Efficiency for one. No wasted movements. Fluidity and flow at the stump and on the buck. How you get paid makes a big difference to how you cut as well. If getting paid volume you definitely learn how to stream line all of your cutting techniques (or at least should). Low stump height is all well and good when its reasonable. When your spending 5 minutes on the stump plus another 2 or 3 in trimming flare I've already laid out and bucked another one. Not trying to be a ****, I just think most hardwood guys have the wrong idea as a whole. Trees don't grow in exact lengths.
 
bitzer

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Some pics from the current job. My cell phone still sucks. Some real fun timber on this one. Taping out on more timber than I ever have before. Lots of fun marms that are about waist high. Just some really pretty red oak and cherry in general.

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Some pics Icepick snapped of me. Meat and potatoes.
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Swinging one around.
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State land behind this one. Had to beat it up the hill. One of the last of the day of course.
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My wife sent me this. Hopefully she has one on order for me.
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Metals406

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Low stumps are good and all, when and where needed. But cut'n in all that flair -- them old timers would be laughing themselves silly.

If it ain't in the way, cut the sumbeech off at the waist or nipples, get'n above the flair.

It's all scaled from the small end, sooooo.

It'd be a hoot to fall with some of you eastern/southern fellas on fires. Bout 5 minutes into the day I'd have ya sling'n long iron and make'n tall stumps. [emoji12]
 
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coltont

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I'm from central pa nate. about 45 minutes south of state college. Nothing done to the 660 yet. In fact that saw I was running was an old beat 066 cause my normal saw got had by the skidder. Just when you think it's in a safe spot the skidder operator gets in a tight spot and has to turn a little bit wider with a big trip and.......You know the rest...
 
jamin alegre

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He was yanking yer chain. ;-)
I was confused on comment now i see. "MUST B NICE" cutting trees over there, got 2 feet on the ground trying to land timber on little x that ur buddy put on the ground, or fell a tree through a hole in the surrounding trees so you don't break a limb. Heavy machine access too THE LIFE.
Now in NJ we have to lower most limbs, not to hit houses,cars,crew,etc. Lucky if I could get my handcart in some of these backyards. Over/Under wires. I could fall trees all day. boring. Thats why I cut here.
Takin a tree down here is like putting a puzzle together and when complete sliding it off the table .
The adrenaline is much better, we make our trees do back flips like a acrobat when fellin, using zip-lines to move debri/logs over pools, sheds, houses, or highlines. Or cutting a 50ft leader steering it 180 degrees over a roof to the drop zone.
Over here we get paid mostly for a service as over there the end game is the product.
Just mesin I know fellin trees all day is hard work and can be just as technical.
HATS OFF to everyone who goes to work w/ a chainsaw everyday (professionally)
 
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I was confused on comment now i see. "MUST B NICE" cutting trees over there, got 2 feet on the ground trying to land timber on little x that ur buddy put on the ground, or fell a tree through a hole in the surrounding trees so you don't break a limb. Heavy machine access too THE LIFE.
Now in NJ we have to lower most limbs, not to hit houses,cars,crew,etc. Lucky if I could get my handcart in some of these backyards. Over/Under wires. I could fall trees all day. boring. Thats why I cut here.
Takin a tree down here is like putting a puzzle together and when complete sliding it off the table .
The adrenaline is much better, we make our trees do back flips like a acrobat when fellin, using zip-lines to move debri/logs over pools, sheds, houses, or highlines. Or cutting a 50ft leader steering it 180 degrees over a roof to the drop zone.
Over here we get paid mostly for a service as over there the end game is the product.
Just mesin I know fellin trees all day is hard work and can be just as technical.
HATS OFF to everyone who goes to work w/ a chainsaw everyday (professionally)

Most folks on the logging and forestry forum are into making trees into logs and getting them on log trucks to send to a mill which sends them to stores. There are instances of "I think I can miss the brand new pickup sitting on the road but I'll get the shovel over to push the tree in the right direction." There aren't very many houses, powerlines, or cars to deal with. Trees hit the ground, are bucked and limbed, and then sent up or down the via whatever yarding system is there. There's no time for climbing and limbing, except when rigging a tree to use for lift...skyline yarding systems.
 
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Low stumps are good and all, when and where needed. But cut'n in all that flair -- them old timers would be laughing themselves silly.

If it ain't in the way, cut the sumbeech off at the waist or nipples, get'n above the flair.

It's all scaled from the small end, sooooo.

It'd be a hoot to fall with some of you eastern/southern fellas on fires. Bout 5 minutes into the day I'd have ya sling'n long iron and make'n tall stumps. [emoji12]


let the old timers laugh, they werent cutting hardwood veneer in the midwest. and the ones that were cut low stumps. its where the moneys at in hardwood.

edit: bitzer cuts about the same height stumps i would. and Im not coordinated enough for long bars. 32" is good enough.
 

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