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What Knot Do You Use For Pulling Trees Over?
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KenJax Tree
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Pretty big balls for his first post
StihlRockin'
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Yeah, was thinking that too since he was not in the thread. Had he been here with a horse in the race, I could understand. Hopbrau confronted several of us here, but since he considered all of us "ladies" and not only me, then I knew he wasn't talking about me, but you guys. LOL! JK! JJ!
But y'all can't blame a guy for sayin' what some of y'all were thinkin'. LOL!
StihlRockin'
Get a little push back and you run away with your tail between your legs, yapping over your shoulder as you leave.
See ya. Come on back, when you grow a pair.
See ya. Come on back, when you grow a pair.
If you are setting a rope from the ground, a lot of times you cant choke off the top without it catching other limbs. Pulling on those limbs can put torque on your hinge. If you want to choke the top, running bowline. If you cant get a clean choke on it, tie the rope off with a timber, cow hitch or such above the cut. This will retain the proper directional forces.
Can I just use a bowline down at the cut?
You could. I find that its best to have a knot that once its preloaded it wont slip at all. Nothing like the rope slipping a touch or a twig breaking free when pulling on a sketchy tree.
sac-climber
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I don't know about you guys but I use a quadruple whipplestich backed up with two half hitches...I prefer to use dental floss as a pull line also, gotta be unwaxed though. The downside is that this only works well on Tuesdays..
As long as I don't die on a Monday or a Friday or the first week of the month Im good with whatever might work
KenJax Tree
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Its gonna take more than a newb to hurt my feelings....not a sensitive bunch here, we just don't put up with assholes and ********.
I'm not sensitive nor were my feelings hurt. I just didn't like your tone. Have a nice day.
WTF did I just read. Some of ya's need to take a dose of you wife's Midol.
Anyways, I'm no knot expert or "tree professional" but one knot I like is the figure 8 with a loop or double loop. It can take a lot of load and it's still easy to get undone. Might take more time to tie if you have to tie it repeatedly though.
Anyways, I'm no knot expert or "tree professional" but one knot I like is the figure 8 with a loop or double loop. It can take a lot of load and it's still easy to get undone. Might take more time to tie if you have to tie it repeatedly though.
StihlRockin'
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Del_
That is very interesting, never thought of that. Now for you and any others who would care to comment on that picture and the method...
Anyone see any drawbacks to that knot/pull style?
I do see a positive and that's when it hard to isolate going over a limb or around the trunk to then set up a slip knot to go to that spot. The pic shows you only have to grab a fork or some spot that is strong and tie off on the bottom.
StihlRockin'
That is very interesting, never thought of that. Now for you and any others who would care to comment on that picture and the method...
Anyone see any drawbacks to that knot/pull style?
I do see a positive and that's when it hard to isolate going over a limb or around the trunk to then set up a slip knot to go to that spot. The pic shows you only have to grab a fork or some spot that is strong and tie off on the bottom.
StihlRockin'
Thats exactly what a said a few posts back
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Ditto, I can tie a figure 8 on a bight faster than a bowline or a figure 8 follow through in about the same amount of time. Both are easy to undo and wont come undone if loaded and unloaded repeatedly. I use figure 8's and clove hitches/ half hitches for just about everything.
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We come from two different professions with two different needs. In the fire service a bowline is not a life safety knot due to the possibility that it could come undone when repeatedly loaded and unloaded. For hoisting tools and such it is fine but then so is a clove hitch in most circumstances. In any rescue situation it's a figure 8, even with a carabiner.
Yep, thats what they teach us for working at heights and confined space retrieval. YMMV
StihlRockin'
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Oh, I see now:
"If you are setting a rope from the ground, a lot of times you cant choke off the top without it catching other limbs. Pulling on those limbs can put torque on your hinge. If you want to choke the top, running bowline. If you cant get a clean choke on it, tie the rope off with a timber, cow hitch or such above the cut. This will retain the proper directional forces."
I wasn't sure if that was the same thing we're talking here, but Del_ introduced a picture, whereas when I read your post I skimmed over it and really didn't get the meaning. Thanks for the reply; that helps a lot and I agree.
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