El Quachito
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I think similar forces may be at play regarding McCleod tool prices. About $60 to $100, and all the fire departments and agencies need them so they set the prices high. Makes a guy wonder.
aluminum hard hats
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I think similar forces may be at play regarding McCleod tool prices. About $60 to $100, and all the fire departments and agencies need them so they set the prices high. Makes a guy wonder.
El Quachito
ArboristSite Operative
I gues I'll have to get by with a China stamp on my hat.
My Honeywell hat is a fiberglass hat. I think it's a model P1ARW... Whatever their full brim heat resistant hard hat is. And my fire helmet is too. My point with metal helmets is that the reason they're illegal for fire is that the metal gets too hot to be safely worn on a fireground.
I'll check my helmet when I go back to the station, but it is definitely not made of a standard plastic material, and it looks and feels more like a fiberglass material.
treeslayer2003
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thanks for the pic sage.........they come in different sizes? how do you know what size you need?
Sagetown
Farmer and a STIHL
Go to a hat store I guess. I wear Cowboy hats, so I know my size #7, which is about 21 7/8" measured with a seamstress' tape measure.
p.s. It comes with an adjustable ratchet for sizes 6 1/2 up to #8. That pretty much covers the majority of folks.
imagineero
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Be nice to wear a full brim hard hat sometimes, especially in sun/rain, but then you got no way to attach muffs to them which means plugs.
Skeans
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I wear some ear plugs called spark plugs and I can hardly hear the ported saws well cutting
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I've heard there is a method of attaching muffs to the full brim hats, just never bothered to get em cause they are bulky and too warm, plugs work fine for me, but I only wear em when I'm not working near buildings, need to be able to hear everything so I know when someone is doing something they shouldn't, be it a tree or person.
imagineero
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I like plugs if running a saw non stop all day. I like plugs under muffs even better in that situation. We do residential tree work now, and I'm a climber so for most of my work its some sawing then some talking, then some climbing then some sawing etc... pain in the ass putting plugs in and out. Gotta have them muffs.
Sagetown
Farmer and a STIHL
I read where the newer buckets have attachments for muffs, but it may have been referring to the plastic models.
Mmmm, it has nothing to do with metal getting hot on "helmets". First, we out west woodsy folks don't wear "helmets" we wear hardhats. The metal ones were worn for eons on the fireline. I've never heard of them getting too hot. We started to melt a radio on a belt one time digging line, but nobody got a fried head from the aluminum MacTs. In fact, I think they are cooler to wear in hot weather. They can get noisy in the rain and brush.
One reason given for the switch to plastic hard hats was electricity. Working near powerlines was what we heard. You might get zapped. That sounded kind of far fetched, but it was what the rumor was at that time. Then the order came down in the Forest Service that everyone was to switch to plastic, fire crews and others. We timber folks picked nice colors and went on with our work. I came here and we were told we must have the heavy, made for fire plastic hats and I can't think of the brand name but many of you will. They are heavy. Everybody had to have that kind and the reason given was questionable--so "anybody going to a fire could grab one and have the proper kind". Not that my hardhat was ever grabbable. This decision cost quite a bit of budget money. Oh well...and I hated wearing the heavy thing doing timber work.
Since then I've heard that the reason the switch to plastic was ordered was dents and damage to aluminum hardhats. You tend to throw them in the rig after work, or I do, and sometimes fling them in the pickup bed with the other gear. They get dinged up.
A dented hardhat is not a safe hardhat. I've seen some terribly dented ones worn on logging jobs, and ones where the "clever" wearer has deliberately bent the brim up. If a safety inspector showed up, those folks would be fined, but there aren't many safety inspectors.
That's it. And I have never worn a skull cap brand so I have strayed from the original question.
One reason given for the switch to plastic hard hats was electricity. Working near powerlines was what we heard. You might get zapped. That sounded kind of far fetched, but it was what the rumor was at that time. Then the order came down in the Forest Service that everyone was to switch to plastic, fire crews and others. We timber folks picked nice colors and went on with our work. I came here and we were told we must have the heavy, made for fire plastic hats and I can't think of the brand name but many of you will. They are heavy. Everybody had to have that kind and the reason given was questionable--so "anybody going to a fire could grab one and have the proper kind". Not that my hardhat was ever grabbable. This decision cost quite a bit of budget money. Oh well...and I hated wearing the heavy thing doing timber work.
Since then I've heard that the reason the switch to plastic was ordered was dents and damage to aluminum hardhats. You tend to throw them in the rig after work, or I do, and sometimes fling them in the pickup bed with the other gear. They get dinged up.
A dented hardhat is not a safe hardhat. I've seen some terribly dented ones worn on logging jobs, and ones where the "clever" wearer has deliberately bent the brim up. If a safety inspector showed up, those folks would be fined, but there aren't many safety inspectors.
That's it. And I have never worn a skull cap brand so I have strayed from the original question.
After more sips of coffee, I remember that the heavy brand is Bullard.
Yeah, and they pretty much have the market cornered for wildland hard hats. It's a shame we don't have another option. What I meant by fire helmet was this:
I never got the chance to wear an aluminum hard hat on a wildland fire.
Sagetown
Farmer and a STIHL
My Skull Bucket also has the ear/neck hood. Sure is nice and warm during cold spells.Yeah, and they pretty much have the market cornered for wildland hard hats. It's a shame we don't have another option. What I meant by fire helmet was this:
I never got the chance to wear an aluminum hard hat on a wildland fire.
Bullard
treeslayer2003
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plastic?
i am pretty well convinced i want aluminum. only one thing........they say it makes the saw seem louder. any truth to that?
Mine is nice for keeping skin on the back of my neck[emoji41]
As far as making the saw louder? Aluminum seems to reflect sound better, but I honestly can't tell you.
Yes, plastic that is reinforced with tree marking paint.
Louder? Only if you pull it clear down over your ears.
treeslayer2003
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you all about got me to the point of ordering one. gonna be weird at first, i never wore one in 25 years........well, i changed cutting style and that worked out well......
