What brand of 2 stroke oil are you using ?
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I normally use klotz snowmobile oil burns clean smells good @ 32:1 trying out lucas @ 32:1 little saw spits oil out.of the muff the big saw does not spit at all and smokes way less maybe more power and heat in the big saw is burning the oil completely?
windthrown
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Its the only oil to use... the favorite brand in the PNW
windthrown
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Bad idea. Klotz snowmobile oil is TC-W3 marine water cooled engine oil. NEVER use TC-W3 oil in an air cooled engine like a chainsaw. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
You want to use an oil designed for air cooled engines, and preferably API TC, JASO FC/FD or ISO-E/GD certified oil designed for air cooled engines. Not TC-W3 rated oil, water cooled 2-stroke oil, or any "all-purpose" 2-stroke oil. Seriously. I only use 100% synthetic JASO FD oil in my air cooled 2-stroke engines. They will last my lifetime that way.
These are low performance engines, its not that big of a deal. You think an oil that keeps an 150 hp 2 cylinder 800 tec togather @ 8200 rpm wont keep a measly 5hp saw togather? Pretty sure an 800 etec could get hotter than any chainsaw could imagine
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TC-W3 was used in our 041 Stihl, it’s over 40 now and still goes, mind you we ran 30wt when
when we ran out.
when we ran out.
hey look ..an oil thread from 2017 .... how different is that ....
Maybe if the saws were indeed high performance i could see tcw-3 ruining them but they are not, an ms661 make 7.5- 8hp? @ 92cc's your run of the mill honda cr 80 makes 20.5 hp which is hi performance. These saws are not picky long as they have decent oil film they will run they are not run nearly as hard as an mx bike or 125cc shifter kart
The klotz snowmobile oil is also reccomended for the fan air and free air sleds. The twc rating was needed for the liquid sleds, and ironically what was reccomend by a klotz tech after a phone conversation that followed up after an email I had recieved from them. It's basically all the same base, with the additive package being the difference from what I understood. The snowmobile techniplate, has a higher concentration of anti corrosion additives then some of their oils.
Thats what similar to what i had heard which is why i run lucas also has good anti corrosion package but klotz smells better for sure and seems to rev better on the high end maybe because its full synthetic vs semi synthetic but at either price point still cheaper than echo red armor 80$ a gallon and stihl @ 100$ a gallon
Mr Haney, ( green acres ) stick to pots & pans
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Amazing how all the AS noobs are always the experts. And these statements like, "My daddy ran his saw on Mrs Butterworth's pancake syrup and it ran just fine for years and years." Sure... and saws will run on crappy 2 stroke marine oil... for a while. But they will not not run as well or as long as they will using JASO rated oils designed for air cooled engines. Different world of 2-strokes. There is no one oil for both that works best for both. Claim all you want here, but I will reiterate: running TC-W3 oil in a chainsaws IS A BAD IDEA. But hey, what would I know? I am just a multi-degreed engineer with many years experience in a failure analysis lab and owning over 100 chainsaws now for over 50 years.
All you oil experts here know so much more than I do that... its simply AMAZING. Why I heard the other day that global warming is caused by social injustice in 'Merica. So it MUST BE TRUE! Right? If we rid this country of all the evil white racists and all their hatred, global warming will be reversed. Poof. Like magic.
All you oil experts here know so much more than I do that... its simply AMAZING. Why I heard the other day that global warming is caused by social injustice in 'Merica. So it MUST BE TRUE! Right? If we rid this country of all the evil white racists and all their hatred, global warming will be reversed. Poof. Like magic.
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
""Those saying they mix at 44:1 34:1 26:1 18:1""
Delo 400 sae 30. Best ever
windthrown
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I run 3oz of rated, tested and labeled as such JASO FD oil per gallon myself. Mostly 'cause I am lazy. But that is perzactly 42.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 to 1.""Those saying they mix at 44:1 34:1 26:1 18:1""
TBS
I have chainsaws and chainsaw accessories.
Canned Homelite SAE 30 is the best ever.
Ever actually weight the liquid oz’s in an oil bottle. They are always way short. Like almost full oz off.
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Opinions vary.Canned Homelite SAE 30 is the best ever.
