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Sawdust Man

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I'm going to ad my .02 on the of shooting critters subject.
Not arguing with anyone.... I'm sure everybody's right.

I just thought maybe something here might be useful...idk.

We process a couple dozen farm hogs a year at our place, as well as a few cattle.... we have used anything from .375 H&H or 45-70 down to .22lr.... with .22 magnum being our preferred instrument, .45 Colt "cowboy" loads also work very well.

.22 mag is also what most professional farm slaughterer guys use in my experience...

They all work fine, if you put the pill in the right spot, but as soon as you mess it up at all, bad things happen.

Of course with livestock we never shoot anywhere but the head.

Bullet selection makes little difference with a very close range head shot, as long as it's not overpowered.....
My son loaded a 350 grain berry's plated bullet in the 45/70, loaded down to about 700fps, shot the porker between the eyes....we found the bullet under the hide just to the rear of the pig's the belly button.....it had penetrated about 36" of pig.

I know, farm shooting livestock is more of an ideal situation than most real life hunting scenarios.....

This might be totally non applicable to the discussion here.... if so, sorry I wasted y'all's time.... ;)
 
The Shooters Apprentice

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I’m about 7 pages behind and don’t think I’m gonna try to catch up 😂

Been busy working on my F350 trying to find a massive oil leak. When I took it to Fairbanks last week to get the Blazer (which runs AWESOME by the way) I noticed on the way back it didn’t seem like it had as much power as it should, and about 1/4 mile from the driveway it quit on me. (Which isn’t bad on a 300 mile round trip). It was about 20 below, and I figured the fuel must have been gelling. Cranked but no start. I actually unloaded the blazer to drive home after dumping some diese 911 in the tank and by the time the wife and I got back to the truck it fired right up and I took it and the trailer home.

Next morning I went to move the trailer and noticed a huge oil spot under the truck. Pulled the dipstick and nothing on it, and it took 2 gallons to get back to where it should be.

I pulled it into the shop I just rented yesterday to let it thaw out, and started working on today. Start it up, and no leak for a min, but once you shut it off it’s a steady piss stream coming out from up above the starter.

My first thought was the Turbo Pedestal, but once I took out all the plumbing for the turbo and intake, it seems like the oil is coming from up by the HPOP and running down the valley, but I can’t see exactly from where.

I’ll get back to it tomorrow. I don’t really want to, but I’m probably going to have to pull the HPOP to get a better look.
 
The Shooters Apprentice

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I'm going to ad my .02 on the of shooting critters subject.
Not arguing with anyone.... I'm sure everybody's right.

I just thought maybe something here might be useful...idk.

We process a couple dozen farm hogs a year at our place, as well as a few cattle.... we have used anything from .375 H&H or 45-70 down to .22lr.... with .22 magnum being our preferred instrument, .45 Colt "cowboy" loads also work very well.

.22 mag is also what most professional farm slaughterer guys use in my experience...

They all work fine, if you put the pill in the right spot, but as soon as you mess it up at all, bad things happen.

Of course with livestock we never shoot anywhere but the head.

Bullet selection makes little difference with a very close range head shot, as long as it's not overpowered.....
My son loaded a 350 grain berry's plated bullet in the 45/70, loaded down to about 700fps, shot the porker between the eyes....we found the bullet under the hide just to the rear of the pig's the belly button.....it had penetrated about 36" of pig.

I know, farm shooting livestock is more of an ideal situation than most real life hunting scenarios.....

This might be totally non applicable to the discussion here.... if so, sorry I wasted y'all's time.... ;)
I shot a big ol boar with a 45/70 this summer. 420gn bullet at 1100 fps entered right between the eyes and traveled right down the spine all the way to the hips where we found the expanded bullet under the hide.
 
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It wasn't always this way, but I'm a Stihl guy nowadays. Just to prove that I'm not biased, I do own a couple of Huskies. I love the 372, but my relationship with my mk1 550 is best described as "complicated." I don't use the 550 much, but if I did use it more, I would swap it for a m-tronic 261 in a heartbeat. The 550 is a tempermental little saw.

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Is it boggy off idle? My T540XP became vitrually unusable, start to open the throttle and it would just bog then stall. Took fuel pump cover off removed spring thats closes needle against the seat. Cut two coils off it, back together and it transforms the saw (the spring load was making it too hard to lift the needle off the seat. Warm it up for 30 seconds then she roars into life. A friends 550 mk1 seemed to run quite warm so we pulled the muffler off and drilled two extra holes in the baffle to double the outlet area. Cut the exhaust deflector off on the exhaust outlet and drilled a pair of holes either side of the main outlet to double outlet size. Then welded the deflector back on and reinstalled the spark arrestor mesh. It runs noticeably cooler and is a wee bit peppier. I run HIX-CMR6 and AIX-BPM7 irridium plugs from Aliexpress in all my saws and really like them. Seem to start a fraction easier, never foul and seem to last really well.
 
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You guys talking guns, bullets, ballistics are nauseating. Maybe switch it up to bullet PLACEMENT, because just about any caliber kills if it’s placed properly. 30/30 to 300 mag. Don’t matter. Types of bullets ? Don’t matter. Make a good clean ethical shot and what you end up w is a dead animal. They all kill
 
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You guys talking guns, bullets, ballistics are nauseating. Maybe switch it up to bullet PLACEMENT, because just about any caliber kills if it’s placed properly. 30/30 to 300 mag. Don’t matter. Types of bullets ? Don’t matter. Make a good clean ethical shot and what you end up w is a dead animal. They all kill
I will absolutely agree with you that bullet placement is number one when it comes to taking game.

However, hunting conditions vary from place to place as do the game animals. Secondly we are often presented with imperfect variables while hunting and proverbial “****” happens whether the shot is pulled slightly, deflected, moved by the wind on a longer shot, the scope got bumped, etc. On top of that we don’t always get a perfect broadside shot at close range on an animal that’s not moving. This is when these secondary considerations come into effect.

When the going gets tough, the guys who did their homework through picking the correct bullet and a suitable gun are going to bring home more game than the guy who only spent time being efficient at punching holes in paper.
 
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IF you believe that, it shows that you haven't done much big game hunting with different calibers/bullets and even less "bigger" big game hunting.

SR
This is not true at all. I have killed whitetails here in Michigan w many, many differen’t guns. As such many, many different bullets. Guess what, they all go bang and if you hit vitals, you have a dead animal. I’ve hunted hogs in Georgia to muleys, elk and bear out west. I killed 8 elk in Colorado, when i lived there. I shoot a weatherby 300 mag. I buy the cheapest bullets i can find. Why ? Because it just doesn’t matter. When that gun goes bang you have a dead animal. 20 ga to 300 mag and a lot in between. They all do the same thing, kill stuff
 
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This is not true at all. I have killed whitetails here in Michigan w many, many differen’t guns. As such many, many different bullets. Guess what, they all go bang and if you hit vitals, you have a dead animal. I’ve hunted hogs in Georgia to muleys, elk and bear out west. I killed 8 elk in Colorado, when i lived there. I shoot a weatherby 300 mag. I buy the cheapest bullets i can find. Why ? Because it just doesn’t matter. When that gun goes bang you have a dead animal. 20 ga to 300 mag and a lot in between. They all do the same thing, kill stuff
What about bullet weight? Would you use light weight bullets in your 300 on elk?? I mean there's 110 grain and 125 grain bullets in 30 cal...

I will give you; deer are pretty easy to kill...

SR
 
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This is not true at all. I have killed whitetails here in Michigan w many, many differen’t guns. As such many, many different bullets. Guess what, they all go bang and if you hit vitals, you have a dead animal. I’ve hunted hogs in Georgia to muleys, elk and bear out west. I killed 8 elk in Colorado, when i lived there. I shoot a weatherby 300 mag. I buy the cheapest bullets i can find. Why ? Because it just doesn’t matter. When that gun goes bang you have a dead animal. 20 ga to 300 mag and a lot in between. They all do the same thing, kill stuff
I agree that the caliber and bullet isn't as important as getting the shot to the vitals... with a couple caveats. One is that the bullet has to be able to actually reach the vitals. Secondly, while lethal, some cartridges kill faster than others due to the wound channel and energy transfer. I shot quite a number of deer with a .357 magnum rifle and decided that while it was lethal it was too iffy. Then I shot a lot of deer with a .44 magnum rifle and pistol with much surer results. As the woods I hunt matured, and ranges increased, I went back to my 30-06 and 270... Whereas I used to take shots at 10-40 yards I found myself taking shots at 100+ yards over time. The lower energy, lessor accuracy, and sighting limitations of those pistol caliber rifles made the bigger and more accurate rifle calibers with higher powered scopes make sense. The .357 and .44 magnum rifles shot no better than 5-6 inch groups at 100 yards whereas the 30-06 and 270 shot under an inch so making longer shots was more of a sure thing.

An illustrative, though morbid, case was that of a school teacher neighbor of mine. She heard someone open the door to her attached garage. Upon entering the garage she was shot with a .22 rimfire (identified only as a commonly owned rifle) and the suspect fled. She was able to go back inside the house and call the operator (pre 911 days in our area). It took a significantly long time to figure out who should respond because they had to determine where she was and who's jurisdiction she was in. Carol was on the phone with them for a long time... until she passed out and then died. It turned out the bullet struck her collar bone and ricocheted down through both lungs. If the bullet hadn't ricocheted the way it did she'd have survived the shoulder wound. Along with that, if she were shot with a more powerful cartridge she'd probably have survived. That incident is still an open case... they have/had suspects but never had the evidence needed for an arrest and some of the suspects are now dead. A white tail deer could have traveled a long ways under similar conditions and never been found... Dangerous game could tear you to bits.
 
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I’m about 7 pages behind and don’t think I’m gonna try to catch up 😂Been busy working on my F350 trying to find a massive oil leak. When I took it to Fairbanks last week to get the Blazer (which runs AWESOME by the way) I noticed on the way back it didn’t seem like it had as much power as it should, and about 1/4 mile from the driveway it quit on me. (Which isn’t bad on a 300 mile round trip). It was about 20 below, and I figured the fuel must have been gelling. Cranked but no start. I actually unloaded the blazer to drive home after dumping some diese 911 in the tank and by the time the wife and I got back to the truck it fired right up and I took it and the trailer home.

Next morning I went to move the trailer and noticed a huge oil spot under the truck. Pulled the dipstick and nothing on it, and it took 2 gallons to get back to where it should be.

I pulled it into the shop I just rented yesterday to let it thaw out, and started working on today. Start it up, and no leak for a min, but once you shut it off it’s a steady piss stream coming out from up above the starter.

My first thought was the Turbo Pedestal, but once I took out all the plumbing for the turbo and intake, it seems like the oil is coming from up by the HPOP and running down the valley, but I can’t see exactly from where.

I’ll get back to it tomorrow. I don’t really want to, but I’m probably going to have to pull the HPOP to get a better look.
:nofunny: i'd say dying anywhere's along the route in -20 is bad news! good to hear it started back up! no doubt just needed a woman's touch! 👍

Good luck with the Ford. is this the one u just did the head work on?

7 pages is nothing, heck! if i had to do what u r describing... i would be 7 days behind. well, weeks come to mind too!

hope i don't miss the updates...
:drinkingcoffee:
 
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What about bullet weight? Would you use light weight bullets in your 300 on elk?? I mean there's 110 grain and 125 grain bullets in 30 cal...

I will give you; deer are pretty easy to kill...

SR
I would say this. If you own a firearm and are going to kill game w it, you better be able to pair the proper weight bullet, for the specific animal you are after. I myself shoot 180’s out of my weatherby. The furthest i have ever had an elk go was about 15 yards. The rest, dead in their tracks. Nosler partition, core lokt, sierA boat tail etc. that mumbo jumbo is irrelevant. Hit em any one of those, in the vitals, and you have a dead animal. I wish i could have taken a bear when i lived out west but i only saw small bears during my hunt period. Obviously my gun is sighted in for 180’s and i would feel totally confident chasing grizzlies w it.
 
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This is not true at all. I have killed whitetails here in Michigan w many, many differen’t guns. As such many, many different bullets. Guess what, they all go bang and if you hit vitals, you have a dead animal. I’ve hunted hogs in Georgia to muleys, elk and bear out west. I killed 8 elk in Colorado, when i lived there. I shoot a weatherby 300 mag. I buy the cheapest bullets i can find. Why ? Because it just doesn’t matter. When that gun goes bang you have a dead animal. 20 ga to 300 mag and a lot in between. They all do the same thing, kill stuff
impossible!

my Dad was a ballistics expert! he told me once... some things in life are impossible. for example, once you pull the trigger (under normal cirucumstances) the firing pin releases, strikes the primer and the bullet leaves the barrel. once initiated, it is impossible to stop it!

(just pullin ur chain Hy - ie, impossible. i agree with you! there is no such thing as a semi-dead animal! it is either dead or it is not!)
 
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Is it boggy off idle? My T540XP became vitrually unusable, start to open the throttle and it would just bog then stall. Took fuel pump cover off removed spring thats closes needle against the seat. Cut two coils off it, back together and it transforms the saw (the spring load was making it too hard to lift the needle off the seat. Warm it up for 30 seconds then she roars into life. A friends 550 mk1 seemed to run quite warm so we pulled the muffler off and drilled two extra holes in the baffle to double the outlet area. Cut the exhaust deflector off on the exhaust outlet and drilled a pair of holes either side of the main outlet to double outlet size. Then welded the deflector back on and reinstalled the spark arrestor mesh. It runs noticeably cooler and is a wee bit peppier. I run HIX-CMR6 and AIX-BPM7 irridium plugs from Aliexpress in all my saws and really like them. Seem to start a fraction easier, never foul and seem to last really well.

It used to have the hot start issues. It would also surge in the cut, like it was getting glitchy with the fuel metering... I almost thought it had an air leak, but it was tight. I eventually split the muffler apart and completely gutted it. I also enlarged the outlet and deflector.

Since then, it's actually been pretty good...I think heat is an issue with them. I almost always toggle the high idle on them during warm starts, that seems to help to. I recently ported it and did some machine work to boost compression...I was worried the added compression was going to create heat issues, but it's been good so far.
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