Stihl 090 on ebay - opinions

[Jacob J.]

There's a reason gear drive saws have the smaller cylinder and piston, because brush apes with meathooks the size of catcher's mitts would get the saw bound up and then try to power it out and twist the stub off the PTO side of the crank.

 

[Bill G]

............... gear drive has some hard to find parts and has the smaller 070 cylinder and piston[/QUOTE

Not all of them were 58mm.

On another note after your move have you dug out any Homelite parts?

Bill

 

[Dan Forsh]

do you realize it is the same saw relisted with a diffent bar?????

I'm not sure that it is the same unless he's also gone to the trouble of putting a full wrap handle on it, cause the second saw has one, the first didn't.

 

[Dan Forsh]

The more you look, the more you see.

It's definitely a different saw:

Full wrap handle on second saw

Newer starter cover on second saw

Black fuel line on second saw

Different throttle triggers

Different sprocket covers

First saw has the rubber chip guard, second one hasn't

Different outer dogs (see the extra mounting holes in the second one)

And the most compelling bit is a mounting point cast into the casing of the second saw. Look at the picture showing the front of the saw from the starter side. There is an unused mounting cast into the crankcase between the starter and the muffler. Not present on the first saw.

 

[RiverRat2]

Good work Dan!!!!

The more you look, the more you see.

It's definitely a different saw:

Full wrap handle on second saw

Newer starter cover on second saw

Black fuel line on second saw

Different throttle triggers

Different sprocket covers

First saw has the rubber chip guard, second one hasn't

Different outer dogs (see the extra mounting holes in the second one)

And the most compelling bit is a mounting point cast into the casing of the second saw. Look at the picture showing the front of the saw from the starter side. There is an unused mounting cast into the crankcase between the starter and the muffler. Not present on the first saw.

I love when you use those big words above the Jr High level intellect that is rampant here,,,,,:monkey:

Id rep ya but I already did on another thread!!!!

Secondofangle,,,I stand corrected,,,,,, spend your money!!!!!!!

 

[Dan Forsh]

I love when you use those big words above the Jr High level intellect that is rampant here,,,,,:monkey:

Id rep ya but I already did on another thread!!!!

Secondofangle,,,I stand corrected,,,,,, spend your money!!!!!!!

No problem Rick, I can't rep you yet either

I always loved to do those "Spot the difference" puzzles as a kid

 

[hoss]

There's a reason gear drive saws have the smaller cylinder and piston, because brush apes with meathooks the size of catcher's mitts would get the saw bound up and then try to power it out and twist the stub off the PTO side of the crank.

I agree. I was just pointing out that a 137cc direct drive or a 106cc gear drive is not the huge difference people think. Now Bill's 137cc gear drive is a different story altogether. At this level of saw they are so strong it's really just a pi$$ing contest.

 

[secondofangle]

Bill has one with 137cc AND gear drive? Did he mod it or is it stock?

 

[hoss]

Bill has one with 137cc AND gear drive? Did he mod it or is it stock?

If I remember correctly he told me it came that way. Since they didn't technically come that way, it must have been a special order or a mix-up. If you decide to try and talk Bill out of it remember two things, a 3to1 underdrive means 1/3 chainspeed (though tremendous torque) and the standard 090 already pulls like a geardrive saw to begin with. That's probably why the six shoe clutches cost an arm and a head. Also what Jacob said earlier is very true. A regular 090 is hard on parts to begin with. Adding geardrive just increases stress on drive components and you may be tempting fate from a reliability standpoint.

 

[joatmon]

If I remember correctly he told me it came that way. Since they didn't technically come that way, it must have been a special order or a mix-up. If you decide to try and talk Bill out of it remember two things, a 3to1 underdrive means 1/3 chainspeed (though tremendous torque) and the standard 090 already pulls like a geardrive saw to begin with. That's probably why the six shoe clutches cost an arm and a head. Also what Jacob said earlier is very true. A regular 090 is hard on parts to begin with. Adding geardrive just increases stress on drive components and you may be tempting fate from a reliability standpoint.

Hoss,

Yep, that's what it's all about big guy.

Joat

 

[secondofangle]

well, we'll have to see, but so far no reply to my e-mails on the e-bay saw, the one described as "a beast with massive family jewels".

I'm having a hard time believing that a guy who rebuilt it and "polished it" and stared at if for hours afterwards won't reply to brag about the saw.

Scam? We'll see. It is the holiday and folks may have better things going on than replying to my nitpicking questions about their chainsaw.

I'll keep you all posted.

SOA

 

[secondofangle]

Seller replied and said that the compression is 130 PSI - how does that sound to you guys?

 

[hoss]

Not so hot.

 

[secondofangle]

He said he tested a new 260 and it was 135 so he thinks it's good - can you give some goidance on what a good PSI is and whether it varies based on teh engine size of the saw? Thanks!

 

[056kid]

135 is good

 

[RiverRat2]

I'm thinking 150 is better!!!!!!!

 

[secondofangle]

Hoss, are you bidding against me???

 

[hoss]

Well maybe he had the decomp pushed in when he tested it. I spaced and did that once when testing my 084. Saws this size don't suffer quite as much with a slightly lower compression but I would still like to see 150+.

 

[hoss]

Hoss, are you bidding against me???

Nope, already have one. 160psi by the way. You can see it in the "Funtime in Virginia" thread.

 

[secondofangle]

Hoss, I went through all 12 pages of that thread and don't see any posts by you - did you change your name? Many of the photos don't appear for me....