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bwalker
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Why do the semi synthetics have such a higher solvent content?
Semi synthetics and oils like K2 and 710 have higher solvent contents because a little solvent is needed to keep the multiple components of their blends in suspension.
I would much rather see a little solvent and an oil with a blend of components than a straight synthetic base stock and additive blend like H1R.
 
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What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53
 
blsnelling
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Looks like that piston had a lot of blowby. Blowby will make any oil look bad.
Semi synthetics and oils like K2 and 710 have higher solvent contents because a little solvent is needed to keep the multiple components of their blends in suspension.
I would much rather see a little solvent and an oil with a blend of components than a straight synthetic base stock and additive blend like H1R.
Reply to this statement. This is not a statement of fact or opinion. Just looking for thoughts on it.

"Semi synthetics only need all those extra detergents and additives because they use petroleum oil and burn dirty."
 
bwalker
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Reply to this statement. This is not a statement of fact or opinion. Just looking for thoughts on it.

"Semi synthetics only need all those extra detergents and additives because they use petroleum oil and burn dirty."
That's a completely blanket statement. Many semis burn cleaner than full synthetics.
What made the oil older mineral oils burn dirty was the heavy weight bright stock added as a antiscuff. When you replace bright stock with an ester or better yet a PIB the dirty burning and smoke are no longer a factor.
 
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What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53
Bwalker r u really bobistheoilguy???!! Lol!!
 
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Keith
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What do you guys see weird here???



Maxima Super M Injector, exceed BIA/TCW, JASO-FC, ISO-E-GD and API TC.

Mobil1 MX2T, exceed JASO-FC, Proposed ISO-L-EGD, API TC.

Motorex CrossPower 2T, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGD, ISO-Global GC, API TC, Low Smoke.

Motul 800 Factory Line Road Racing 2T double ester, API TC.

http://images28.fotki.com/v986/photos/7/39087/7893182/IMAG0003-vi.jpg

...............Maxima........Mobil1.......Motorex........Motul

Iron...............0...............1...............0............0
Tin................0...............0...............0............57
Silicon............0...............0...............0............2
Sodium...........0...............1...............1............3
Titanium.........1...............6...............6............0
Potassium........0...............0...............0............1
Boron.............1...............3...............0............2
Magnesium.......1..............1...............2............2
Calcium.........462.............481............486.........651
Barium............2...............2..............2............1
Phosphorus.......3..............19..............6............62
Zinc...............2..............24..............5............65

Water (IR)...... < 0.1.........< 0.1%.........0.1..........0.1
VIS @ 100C ..... 9.6 cSt......14.3...........12.6.........18.0
TAN..............0.15..........0.49...........0.60.........0.53
Motul 800 has the highest additives which will contribute to the leftovers after combustion that would exceed the ash threshold of .018 for Jaso FD certification?
 
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