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Cutting Sea Ice
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IchWarriorMkII
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I saw a glimpse of a JD 450, got any more of her?
MikeInParadise
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Another Chainsaw Ice cutter picture.....I am not sure where I picked this up but I think it was Ebay..
Ed in Maine
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Cool pics, and I thought Maine was cold. I would think that the key to removing an 8ft core sample of sea ice, say 2ft by 2ft, would be to get an exact measure on the thickness of ice by drilling a pilot hole first. Then you would set the depth of your cut to stop an inch or so from the bottom of the ice. This would keep the water from filling your cut and refreezing. The water will flow to a few inches of the surface as soon as you puncture the last of the ice. You would need to build a small hoist that hilti's into the core sample to start pull up with as soon as you break through the last inch with a long chisel or something?
As for the bar, they must have access to a machince shop in order to build this rig. Just mill out your own .063 groove in some flat stock, buy a roll of chain, and go for it.
Where do I need to fly to so I can jump on this project!
As for the bar, they must have access to a machince shop in order to build this rig. Just mill out your own .063 groove in some flat stock, buy a roll of chain, and go for it.
Where do I need to fly to so I can jump on this project!
1wildthing
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I have cut thinner ice with chainsaws, and it cuts like butter. I would think that any big powerhead that can turn the chain would cut through 8' without much trouble. Any competent machine shop should be able to make the bar. Be sure that they use the right kind of material, and get it hardened or it will wear quickly. Sounds like it would be a fun project.
Canyon Angler
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How NOT to cut sea ice (joke):
A guy buys a new Lincoln Navigator for $42,500.00 (with monthly payments of $560.00). He and a friend go duck hunting in upper Wisconsin. It's mid-winter; and of course all of the lakes are frozen. These two guys go out on the ice with their GUNS, a DOG, and of course the new NAVIGATOR. They decide they want to make a natural looking open water area for the ducks to focus on, something for the decoys to float on.
Now making a hole in the ice large enough to invite a passing duck, is going to take a little more power than the average drill auger can produce.
So, out of the back of the new Navigator comes a stick of dynamite with a short 40 second-fuse. Now our two Rocket Scientists, afraid they might slip on the ice while trying to run away after lighting the fuse (and becoming toast, along with the Navigator), decide on the following course of action: they light the 40 second fuse; then, with a mighty thrust, they throw the stick of dynamite as far away as possible.
Remember a couple of paragraphs back when I mentioned the NAVIGATOR, the GUNS, and the DOG...???
Let's talk about the dog: A highly trained Black Lab used for RETRIEVING; especially things thrown by the owner. You guessed it: the dog takes off across the ice at a high rate of speed and grabs the stick of dynamite, with the burning 40-second fuse, just as it hits the ice.
The two men swallow, blink, start waving their arms and, with veins in their necks swelling to resemble stalks of rhubarb, scream and holler at the dog to stop. The dog, now apparently cheered on by his master, keeps coming.
One hunter panics, grabs the shotgun and shoots the dog. The shotgun is loaded with #8 bird shot, hardly big enough to stop a Black Lab. The dog stops for a moment, slightly confused, and then continues on. Another shot, and this time the dog, still standing, becomes really confused and of course terrified, thinks these two geniuses have gone insane. The dog takes off to find cover, UNDER the brand new Navigator.
Then " "" "" "" "" " BOOOOOOOOOOOOM "" "" "" "" "" ! ! ! !
The truck is blown to bits and sinks to the bottom of the lake, leaving the two idiots standing there with "I can't believe this just happened" looks on their faces.
The insurance company says that sinking a vehicle in a lake by illegal use of explosives is NOT COVERED by the policy. And he still had yet to make the first of that $560.00 a month payments.
A guy buys a new Lincoln Navigator for $42,500.00 (with monthly payments of $560.00). He and a friend go duck hunting in upper Wisconsin. It's mid-winter; and of course all of the lakes are frozen. These two guys go out on the ice with their GUNS, a DOG, and of course the new NAVIGATOR. They decide they want to make a natural looking open water area for the ducks to focus on, something for the decoys to float on.
Now making a hole in the ice large enough to invite a passing duck, is going to take a little more power than the average drill auger can produce.
So, out of the back of the new Navigator comes a stick of dynamite with a short 40 second-fuse. Now our two Rocket Scientists, afraid they might slip on the ice while trying to run away after lighting the fuse (and becoming toast, along with the Navigator), decide on the following course of action: they light the 40 second fuse; then, with a mighty thrust, they throw the stick of dynamite as far away as possible.
Remember a couple of paragraphs back when I mentioned the NAVIGATOR, the GUNS, and the DOG...???
Let's talk about the dog: A highly trained Black Lab used for RETRIEVING; especially things thrown by the owner. You guessed it: the dog takes off across the ice at a high rate of speed and grabs the stick of dynamite, with the burning 40-second fuse, just as it hits the ice.
The two men swallow, blink, start waving their arms and, with veins in their necks swelling to resemble stalks of rhubarb, scream and holler at the dog to stop. The dog, now apparently cheered on by his master, keeps coming.
One hunter panics, grabs the shotgun and shoots the dog. The shotgun is loaded with #8 bird shot, hardly big enough to stop a Black Lab. The dog stops for a moment, slightly confused, and then continues on. Another shot, and this time the dog, still standing, becomes really confused and of course terrified, thinks these two geniuses have gone insane. The dog takes off to find cover, UNDER the brand new Navigator.
Then " "" "" "" "" " BOOOOOOOOOOOOM "" "" "" "" "" ! ! ! !
The truck is blown to bits and sinks to the bottom of the lake, leaving the two idiots standing there with "I can't believe this just happened" looks on their faces.
The insurance company says that sinking a vehicle in a lake by illegal use of explosives is NOT COVERED by the policy. And he still had yet to make the first of that $560.00 a month payments.
smokechase II
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Story was great.
Sorry for the dog.
Let's have some documentation. I want to be able to retell this one.
Thanks
(I went to http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/dynamitedog.htm and they say it is an urban legend.)
Story was great.
Sorry for the dog.
Let's have some documentation. I want to be able to retell this one.
Thanks
(I went to http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/dynamitedog.htm and they say it is an urban legend.)
1wildthing
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Sorry, no mythbusters needed. There are no ducks in wisconsin when the water is frozen. They are migratory. Without open water they die, so they go south in the winter.
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chowdozer
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If I do, I couldn't find them. Technology (digital camera) is a pain, (too many pics)!
chowdozer
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Below is a picture of the “big saw”: a self-propelled chainsaw cart with a seven foot bar. They used it for precision cutting of the ice beams.
Ice beams for what?
chowdozer
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You'd think PPE would be required in this enviroment...
I like it. You should make it your avatar! Looks like an argument going on.
Something like:
"No, that's my saw. You didn't bring your's because you didn't think we'd see any trees this trip."
or
"Hey, look!!! Is that Rosie over there? Quick, grab his saw!"
You'd think PPE would be required in this enviroment...
"Hey Gypho! Which way to the beech?" (Hi Gypho)
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Oregon Engineer
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Chowdozer,
The pictures of the ice cutting machine is very similar to pictures posted by an expedition to the Antarctic during November. They were using the machine to cut large sections of thick sea ice. The sections of ice were used to determine the strength of the sea ice.
Follow this link for more info:
http://clarkson.edu/projects/antarctica/blog/
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The pictures of the ice cutting machine is very similar to pictures posted by an expedition to the Antarctic during November. They were using the machine to cut large sections of thick sea ice. The sections of ice were used to determine the strength of the sea ice.
Follow this link for more info:
http://clarkson.edu/projects/antarctica/blog/
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maveric944
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maveric944
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"Hey Gypho! Which way to the beech?" (Hi Gypho)
it is "personal penguin equipment"
NWCS
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there are several sources that could make the bar, Cannon and Chain Bar Reparing. for power i would have to say an 088 or 3120. madsens used to have pictures of one of the 2 cutting ice in alaska, i can not remember what one. with that long of a bar i would say mount it on some kind of light skid setup with multiple handle positions for leverage. a splash guard in place of dogs would also be a good idea.
http://www.cannonbar.com/
http://www.chainbar.com/
http://www.cannonbar.com/
http://www.chainbar.com/
