Is the trufuel even like the alkylate fuels? Like aspen or stihl moto mix? Thats what I consider the engineered fuels.
Price that stuff sometime. Blow the cap right off your head.
Price that stuff sometime. Blow the cap right off your head.
Aspen is a Alki fuel. Stihl is not. Aspen is just too good to be true. Use it in all of my small engines both the Aspen2 and the Aspen4. Switched from Trufuel which is ok just not as impressive as a Alki.Is the trufuel even like the alkylate fuels? Like aspen or stihl moto mix? Thats what I consider the engineered fuels.
Price that stuff sometime. Blow the cap right off your head.
I dont use stihl anything to do with mix or oil. But years back we had a long thread on this.Aspen is a Alki fuel. Stihl is not. Aspen is just too good to be true. Use it in all of my small engines both the Aspen2 and the Aspen4. Switched from Trufuel which is ok just not as impressive as a Alki.
I think it is an alkylate fuel. I recently read it was somewhere on here and also it doesn't smell like pump gas, but I'm not sure.Is the trufuel even like the alkylate fuels? Like aspen or stihl moto mix? Thats what I consider the engineered fuels.
Price that stuff sometime. Blow the cap right off your head.
They say it is very similar to the alklate fuel.I think it is an alkylate fuel. I recently read it was somewhere on here and also it doesn't smell like pump gas, but I'm not sure.
This is a site generally pointed toward professional arborists. I understand that, so I consider it a "read only" forum, since I'm one of those non-pro homeowners mentioned above (small wooded acreage). Over time, I've picked up lots of valuable little tips from you guys on saw operation and maintenance. Thank you all for that.Engendered/premix in a can fuel is for homeowners who can’t mix their own because they don’t have the combined brain cells of a house fly.
Thank you for your perspective.This is a site generally pointed toward professional arborists. I understand that, so I consider it a "read only" forum, since I'm one of those non-pro homeowners mentioned above (small wooded acreage). Over time, I've picked up lots of valuable little tips from you guys on saw operation and maintenance. Thank you all for that.
Being a homeowner, I only own a few saws, and I doubt my 20 year old H-372XP (or even its much more heavily used little brother H-435) will ever accumulate 1000 hours between them. Additionally, I'm almost 81 so my chainsaw hours are more limited these days. I have started using TruFuel for its consistent high quality, local availability, and more or less unlimited shelf life. 5 gallons of carefully mixed e-free pump gas with StaBil added would probably last me 2-3 years, and after the first year I wouldn't trust it anyway and would burn what's left in my truck. So for years I've dutifully mixed e-free pump gas, StaBil, and those cute little bottles of 2-stroke oil a gallon at a time like a mad scientist. I discovered that a two-gallon can of TruFuel lasts me a long time at the rate I use it (I only occasionally need the 372XP), so I have no worries about the remainder turning sour, with the nice little bonus of convenience.
As a homeowner, retired engineer, and sometimes customer (I occasionally hire pros like you) I am only mildly offended at the reference to my brain cell count, but will probably get over it. Just wanted to point out that for many "homeowners" like me, engineered pre-mix fuels are a perfect fit.
Back to listen-only mode, and everybody have a safe week.
My comment was meant to be humorous, and I apologize for any offense I caused.This is a site generally pointed toward professional arborists. I understand that, so I consider it a "read only" forum, since I'm one of those non-pro homeowners mentioned above (small wooded acreage). Over time, I've picked up lots of valuable little tips from you guys on saw operation and maintenance. Thank you all for that.
Being a homeowner, I only own a few saws, and I doubt my 20 year old H-372XP (or even its much more heavily used little brother H-435) will ever accumulate 1000 hours between them. Additionally, I'm almost 81 so my chainsaw hours are more limited these days. I have started using TruFuel for its consistent high quality, local availability, and more or less unlimited shelf life. 5 gallons of carefully mixed e-free pump gas with StaBil added would probably last me 2-3 years, and after the first year I wouldn't trust it anyway and would burn what's left in my truck. So for years I've dutifully mixed e-free pump gas, StaBil, and those cute little bottles of 2-stroke oil a gallon at a time like a mad scientist. I discovered that a two-gallon can of TruFuel lasts me a long time at the rate I use it (I only occasionally need the 372XP), so I have no worries about the remainder turning sour, with the nice little bonus of convenience.
As a homeowner, retired engineer, and sometimes customer (I occasionally hire pros like you) I am only mildly offended at the reference to my brain cell count, but will probably get over it. Just wanted to point out that for many "homeowners" like me, engineered pre-mix fuels are a perfect fit.
Back to listen-only mode, and everybody have a safe week.
Absolutely no offense taken, Sir. I was just sticking up for us Joe Homeowners. This is a great forum with generally very knowledgeable members, and I enjoy reading it.My comment was meant to be humorous, and I apologize for any offense I caused.
Aspen is a Alki fuel. Stihl is not. Aspen is just too good to be true. Use it in all of my small engines both the Aspen2 and the Aspen4. Switched from Trufuel which is ok just not as impressive as a Alki.
I dont use stihl anything to do with mix or oil. But years back we had a long thread on this.
Stihl dealer showed there is something different with motomix. Here is the chart. They say it is very similar to the alklate fuel.
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Yes that is true according to Stihl thank you. Ran the Motomix as well as Trufuel for years and stopped after I tried the Aspen2 and Aspen4 not just the saws but other equipment especially the Echo PB-9010T which has a bigger engine that my MS 500i (tiny bit), run better and cleaner. The best thing is the Aspen is better at least for me and a lower price point than Stihl fuel around here anyway.Straight from stihl = That solution is called MotoMix® and Moto4Plus. It's an alkylate fuel which has been formulated by STIHL to run specifically in our machines. What's special about it is that it doesn't contain any of the harmful additives that gasoline does since we are able to pick and choose what goes into it.
Just showing ya why I said what I said above. I dont run either. You said stihl wasnt alkylate.Yes that is true according to Stihl thank you. Ran the Motomix as well as Trufuel for years and stopped after I tried the Aspen2 and Aspen4 not just the saws but other equipment especially the Echo PB-9010T which has a bigger engine that my MS 500i (tiny bit), run better and cleaner. The best thing is the Aspen is better at least for me and a lower price point than Stihl fuel around here anyway.
Understand your position. I on the other hand will not run pump gas in my equipment period no matter what the cost. We have the blended fuel here in DFW and I learned many years ago that that pump gas is not intended for small engines after a couple of carburetors and some fuel lines not to mention being a pita starting after sitting for a month or two.Just showing ya why I said what I said above. I dont run either. You said stihl wasnt alkylate.
Cant afford to mixing 5 gallons at a time. All I need right here for 20-25 for 5 gal. Give or take.
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I only use the E-free in trimmers, saws, generator and boat. Gen only when in storage for last running and first.Without driving 45-60 mins for e free a local place started selling it about 6 months ago and it has remained at $6 a gallon. Not worth the travel time to hit the other places. They’re a small local place and it’s 89 octane. Just last week I saw a new sign at a station for e free. I went up there Saturday, 10 mins drive and got 90 octane for $4.59 a gallon. That’s definitely going to hurt the other guy but $46 vs $60 for 10 gallons is much better. Mowing season is almost over and now the splitter and the generator are both full with e free.
That's about what I'm paying. About a 1 1/2 years ago, it was $3/gallon, though.Without driving 45-60 mins for e free a local place started selling it about 6 months ago and it has remained at $6 a gallon. Not worth the travel time to hit the other places. They’re a small local place and it’s 89 octane. Just last week I saw a new sign at a station for e free. I went up there Saturday, 10 mins drive and got 90 octane for $4.59 a gallon. That’s definitely going to hurt the other guy but $46 vs $60 for 10 gallons is much better. Mowing season is almost over and now the splitter and the generator are both full with e free.
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