Mtnman4ever
ArboristSite Operative
Well I got Under bid big time and am at the point of really giving up I ma backing offalot and selling off soem of my used gear . on ebay .
Ihad bid on a job witha tree over hanging and had branches in wires next to the raod .
I bid a about 800 a very reasonbly price for the job Well a guy who hasa MS 460 and abeat up bl;ue Chevy pick up underbid me by get this $450 !
I wascruoic as to how hewas gong ot do theh job as he would need a cop for a few hours to driect raffric as i would have to havea lift o in the raod . most state requirea cop at that point . hewdid not He had the tree roped half way up with rop you can buy art any hard ware store. He was cutting the thing at it's base he had not limbed it or cleared the tree from the power lines .
Icalled the power company andasked if they were aware of any work being doen on that raod No thy qwere not . Well by the time Igot hoime our power was out i too a drivand guesswhere his tree went ? right onto the wires takng them down! .
Cops weraroundand the power comany was . I know hwe was charged with soemthing it was in the paper .
Is it illegal to bid so low no one can compeate he must be takin a lossto use his Pro MS 460 and feel like a tree serive operator .
Now I read craiglsit poole think some one is goingto take the tree thy had fdropped for free! wiaTi am cleaning up thier mess and itr is my timeandequipeknt . . Icannot operate "for the wood" Some how pole think it is payment .
YeahI have droped trees fro freinds and not chrgee kept the wood but they have done mea favor like working on my trucks or he like .
I see alot of trees fell in myyard come get themn all yours . OK I know it cosit to have work doen and some have little money . But Free , That just does not cut it .
One guy said hey I am givng yiu free wood ireplied I No i am cleaning up your yard with wquipment you do not ghave anbd know how to operate that is why I am asking to be paid !
I hae nothingwrong with a new guy bidding a bit lower on soem work but when they cannot do the job please work out something with soem one who can . .
you both might benfit and who knows .
It is howi got sub contracts for large trees . Iam getting out now though Icnnot compeate with some kid and a pick u[p willing ot do what i spent years learningto od and buying lots of expensive equipoment come in with hjis Big bad MS 460 and cut for nothing . Yeah the MS 45 60 uia good saw powerfuul and such . But owning one does not make you a pro
What do you do when ther ar hacks and inexperinced guys willingot work for "the wood" and sell it .
I am losing busisnes I lost a a job to this samw kid clearing soem trees fora hopusingsite . he left all the pne but took any hard wood .It tooo k hima while but he did it .
Now the pole who woan it want the white pine removed For fre :ca,mpfire wood you cut it ?
Am Ialone inb this or is it every where I checkeda few places on Craigslist where isee mostr of theaseadssbut it is a grwoing trend one guy ius whining noe onewill remove his oak yeah it is isa 10,000 job as most of it needa lift or bucket truck and thena small bobvcat to move it all of thetrees can hit a building . so the y need alot of work . but no he thinks that soem one will take his 30 oak ?
What do we do If it is in my area it isn yours . I do not minda new guy learning but this is too much . and hurting us making us look bad abnd eventually putting some out of work .
alongwith inflating insurance rates as they will think that it is even more dangerous a becuaseof thease hacks . When nough trees hithomes cars ect take out power lines
we suffer as out insurance will go up as they base rates on all timber injuriesand accident not jusit the very few done by a pro
WhaT TO DO ? :censored:
Ihad bid on a job witha tree over hanging and had branches in wires next to the raod .
I bid a about 800 a very reasonbly price for the job Well a guy who hasa MS 460 and abeat up bl;ue Chevy pick up underbid me by get this $450 !
I wascruoic as to how hewas gong ot do theh job as he would need a cop for a few hours to driect raffric as i would have to havea lift o in the raod . most state requirea cop at that point . hewdid not He had the tree roped half way up with rop you can buy art any hard ware store. He was cutting the thing at it's base he had not limbed it or cleared the tree from the power lines .
Icalled the power company andasked if they were aware of any work being doen on that raod No thy qwere not . Well by the time Igot hoime our power was out i too a drivand guesswhere his tree went ? right onto the wires takng them down! .
Cops weraroundand the power comany was . I know hwe was charged with soemthing it was in the paper .
Is it illegal to bid so low no one can compeate he must be takin a lossto use his Pro MS 460 and feel like a tree serive operator .
Now I read craiglsit poole think some one is goingto take the tree thy had fdropped for free! wiaTi am cleaning up thier mess and itr is my timeandequipeknt . . Icannot operate "for the wood" Some how pole think it is payment .
YeahI have droped trees fro freinds and not chrgee kept the wood but they have done mea favor like working on my trucks or he like .
I see alot of trees fell in myyard come get themn all yours . OK I know it cosit to have work doen and some have little money . But Free , That just does not cut it .
One guy said hey I am givng yiu free wood ireplied I No i am cleaning up your yard with wquipment you do not ghave anbd know how to operate that is why I am asking to be paid !
I hae nothingwrong with a new guy bidding a bit lower on soem work but when they cannot do the job please work out something with soem one who can . .
you both might benfit and who knows .
It is howi got sub contracts for large trees . Iam getting out now though Icnnot compeate with some kid and a pick u[p willing ot do what i spent years learningto od and buying lots of expensive equipoment come in with hjis Big bad MS 460 and cut for nothing . Yeah the MS 45 60 uia good saw powerfuul and such . But owning one does not make you a pro
What do you do when ther ar hacks and inexperinced guys willingot work for "the wood" and sell it .
I am losing busisnes I lost a a job to this samw kid clearing soem trees fora hopusingsite . he left all the pne but took any hard wood .It tooo k hima while but he did it .
Now the pole who woan it want the white pine removed For fre :ca,mpfire wood you cut it ?
Am Ialone inb this or is it every where I checkeda few places on Craigslist where isee mostr of theaseadssbut it is a grwoing trend one guy ius whining noe onewill remove his oak yeah it is isa 10,000 job as most of it needa lift or bucket truck and thena small bobvcat to move it all of thetrees can hit a building . so the y need alot of work . but no he thinks that soem one will take his 30 oak ?
What do we do If it is in my area it isn yours . I do not minda new guy learning but this is too much . and hurting us making us look bad abnd eventually putting some out of work .
alongwith inflating insurance rates as they will think that it is even more dangerous a becuaseof thease hacks . When nough trees hithomes cars ect take out power lines
we suffer as out insurance will go up as they base rates on all timber injuriesand accident not jusit the very few done by a pro
WhaT TO DO ? :censored:
