fuel and oil dye chemistry %

[diesel&coffee]

ok

1 oz dye 1:20,000 - 1:40,000

How to get it down to where a drop or 2, 3 for every gallon of fuel or bar oil?

If take 1oz dye and put in a quart of say Motul.. then that becomes the dye bottle.. Then take X drops and put in whatever??

Question is: what does the drops out of the bottle become in %?? You can control the drops if you use a 3 ml/cc syringe.. SO if you take "that" 1 ml or 2 ml drop and put it in a gallon or oil... what is the final ratio??

what is the % of the new dye quart of oil - for the drops! meaning how many mls to get out of the quart to come CLOSE to 1:20,000... BAr oil is no big deal - it's the fuel that needs to be "half way" right!

Need a chemistry person here?? I don't wish to mess up %%.. opcorn:

 

[GASoline71]

Dye in fuel? For what??

Gary

 

[serial killer]

1 fl. oz = 29.574 ml

29.574 mL x 20000 = 591.48 L
29.574 mL x 40000 = 1182.96 L

This is the range of volumes of all the fuel that your 1 oz of dye will treat. So if you put that 1 oz into 1 L of motul, you would end up with 1029.574 mL. If you put 1 mL of that into each L of fuel, you could treat 1029 L of fuel and come up just under the 1:40,000 range (actually at about 1:35,000)

If you prefer to use standard measurements, put your 1 oz into 1 qt and you will have 17 oz of dyed motul or 975.93 mL. Now put 4 mL of that into 1 gallon of fuel and it will dye a total of 243.98 gallons at a ratio of 1:31229. I'm talking about US gallons and quarts, not Imperial units.

I don't know if that exactly answered your question, but I hope it helps.

 

[diesel&coffee]

close enough!

Gary I have standup type jet ski and a dirt bike.. I always can't remember 2 or 3 weeks down the line if I mixed the gas setting in "ONE" of "SEVERAL" 5 gal. racing jugs! THe dye is to help me remember.. Trust me - now if someone else picks up one of my gas jugs - I can ask if it's purple, red, blue, yellow or whatever.. I have had NO OIL mix put in my ski before.. Rocks went flying..

This is the good dye stuff used in the petro / oil world.. In Eruope it is LAW to dye say prem. gas and diesel / etc...

Plus - just because. The new color for my gas and BAR oil is BLUE or PURPLE!

JUst picked up my gallon of Stihl bar oil for $9 + tax.. You use red dyed DUREX - why can't I have blue Stihl!

 

[ShoerFast]

Interesting!

I have about a half-gallon of old school Mobil Racing T oil, no dye in it, and I dump a lot of questionable (mix?) in 4-cycle tanks if I can't remember.

Where can you get the dye?

It would also be cool if they could formulate a mix ratio/dye ratio that went from say a blue - a purple - a bright red at say 50:1 - 401 - 32:1 ,We can bet Gary is working on it!

 

[diesel&coffee]

I think it a killer idea!

Heres a link.. They sell a "sample" 1 oz for under $5.00 It's all we need!!

http://www.apexdyes.com/Catalog/Novasolve.asp

http://www.apexdyes.com/Products/NS.htm

 

[diesel&coffee]

based on how "colored" it looks I may go down to 1:20,000 after I talk to the folks at APEX.. As for the bar oil! It will be Blue is I can get it in reason!

 

[stihlboy]

how about a smarter approach... buy a different colored can:monkey:

 

[diesel&coffee]

???? this is not about diff cans for diff things... 50:1 or 45:1 is what it is.. It's about knowing I mixed for one!!

All things a side - because I want tooo...

 

[flxblx]

???? this is not about diff cans for diff things... 50:1 or 45:1 is what it is.. It's about knowing I mixed for one!!

All things a side - because I want tooo...

I like the idea. Would be nice if it was a bright obnoxious color that you couldn't miss.

If it isn't fire engine red or hunter orange then it is straight gas.

 

[barkies]

I have a 2.5 gallon jug of herbicide dye I think its called blazon a few drops in a gallon of water and it will stain anything blue

Hmmm? I bet it would work in 2cycle oil:agree2:


It would help in batches of oil like klotz with no dye.

 

[GASoline71]

Interesting idear... but I'm just not sure how fuel jugs get "mixed up"...

I can honestly say, I have never poured straight gas into any 2 stoke engines gas tank.

Gary

 

[diesel&coffee]

easy - not having total control over them for one! Also - really if I go out sking I may have 2 or 3 - 5 gal race jugs of gas.. But usually mix one at a time.. but things do happen and sometimes 2 get mixed up - but NOT used... then the other times it did not get mixed and then a few weeks go by now you say ...

But back to the beginning - I just want to mess around using dye!

 

[Lakeside53]

I hear Garysown will be made from Jellyfish genes - glows green at night... :greenchainsaw:

 

[Philbert]

Interesting idea. But I'm colorblind. Could not tell the difference between blue and purple tints in the bright sunlight, let alone when it's dark or shady.

I use a durable tag (e.g. yellow Tyvek with wire ties) to mark cans of anything that is not a 'standard' mix. You can switch them between cans if you need to. Also lets you put dates on the tags if you want to remember how old the mix is.

Philbert

 

[ericjeeper]

If someone wants to get rich....

come up with a dye that will undo the dye they put in off road fuel..So basically invent a bleach to get the red out.

 

[Lakeside53]

Hmmm... how about a simple still....

 

[diesel&coffee]

"color blind" you should still be able to see GRAY as the mix color - I THINK!! Depends on how colorful it is??

 

[diesel&coffee]

come up with a dye that will undo the dye they put in off road fuel..So basically invent a bleach to get the red out.

They put tracers in it for that very reason - for those that try to filter the dye out!

 

[PatrickIreland]

"Bleached" red diesel (Jungle juice!) is very common over here and normally very acidic - manys a diesel pump has fallen prey to it.
And as said, they just put a sniffer to your tailpipe anyway which picks the stuff up!

They put tracers in it for that very reason - for those that try to filter the dye out!