Husqvarna Rancher 460, easy to use, starts easy reliable, but...

[tamarack56]

Notice its 60 cc's but only rated at only 3.7 HP. They probably didn't wind it up all the way for maximum power. They wanted to design a reliable good running, easy to use saw that you really can't do anything wrong with. I also own a Stihl ms 441. Its a power house, it will pull a 32" bar easily and has enough torque to spin the chain just barely above an idle. Yet this saw is only 10 more cc's. Case in point, last week I took both saw to do some clean up work. Figuring I'd start with the 441, pulled it out, tried to start it fast, I flooded it, wouldn't start, no tools with me to pull the plug. I was figuring I'd do a fast job and get it done. Glad I brought the Rancher 460 as a backup, it got the job done. Nothing against Stihl, its just you really need to know what you are doing 100% of the time, the saw was new too me. I now know how to start it but it took a learning curve.

 

[brokenbudget]

if your stihl is hard or finicky to start, it's time to do some maintinance. when's the last time you looked inside the carb? under the muffler?

 

[Philip Wheelock]

Stihl saws are typically easy to start as long as you take them off the choke position right after they first pop or cough. Husky 460: a little heavy for the power, but reliability makes it a keeper.

 

[JakeG]

The 460 rancher is a good saw. I had one for a few months. It is a little heavy for the power and has quite a few vibrations but definitely a good landowner saw. It will pull 84dl's if you need it to. Eventually I traded up for a 562xp... It is a pleasure to use... No regrets!

 

[moody]

Notice its 60 cc's but only rated at only 3.7 HP. They probably didn't wind it up all the way for maximum power. They wanted to design a reliable good running, easy to use saw that you really can't do anything wrong with. I also own a Stihl ms 441. Its a power house, it will pull a 32" bar easily and has enough torque to spin the chain just barely above an idle. Yet this saw is only 10 more cc's. Case in point, last week I took both saw to do some clean up work. Figuring I'd start with the 441, pulled it out, tried to start it fast, I flooded it, wouldn't start, no tools with me to pull the plug. I was figuring I'd do a fast job and get it done. Glad I brought the Rancher 460 as a backup, it got the job done. Nothing against Stihl, its just you really need to know what you are doing 100% of the time, the saw was new too me. I now know how to start it but it took a learning curve.

Torque has nothing to do with your chain moving at idle, too lean of a low mixture does.

 

[XSKIER]

Tamarack means that he can accelerate the saw from idle while touching wood. He should try a MS 441 R C-M. There is no full choke, half choke routine. There is only off, on, and start. They are very difficult to flood because of the semi-automatic choke.

[video=youtube_share;iMj5ticEz7g]http://youtu.be/iMj5ticEz7g[/video]

 

[sunfish]

460 isn't a bad saw, but it is a lower grade saw.

357xp, 359, 555, 562xp would all be a better choice in a 60cc saw.

 

[tamarack56]

Thanks guys, all good discussions

Once learning the Stihl starting routine, its no longer an issue. I did see the youtube video before this, I was wondering what was up with that, mine wasn't like that. Stihl and Husqvarna are both my favorites although I have never tried the Pro XP Husky line, I believe it must be good based on my rancher.

 

[HuskStihl]

Notice its 60 cc's but only rated at only 3.7 HP. They probably didn't wind it up all the way for maximum power. They wanted to design a reliable good running, easy to use saw that you really can't do anything wrong with. I also own a Stihl ms 441. Its a power house, it will pull a 32" bar easily and has enough torque to spin the chain just barely above an idle. Yet this saw is only 10 more cc's. Case in point, last week I took both saw to do some clean up work. Figuring I'd start with the 441, pulled it out, tried to start it fast, I flooded it, wouldn't start, no tools with me to pull the plug. I was figuring I'd do a fast job and get it done. Glad I brought the Rancher 460 as a backup, it got the job done. Nothing against Stihl, its just you really need to know what you are doing 100% of the time, the saw was new too me. I now know how to start it but it took a learning curve.

I can't tell if this is rhetorical, or even if there is a question present. If not, they are both good, but very different saws. Stihl's are easy to flood of u'r not careful.

 

[Hubert Hoffman]

I did a little headwork (porting) to my 460R and the thing outcuts with 20-24" bar) most 70cc+ stiel saws Ive used/owned.

 

[brokenbudget]

I did a little headwork (porting) to my 460R and the thing outcuts with 20-24" bar) most 70cc+ stiel saws Ive used/owned.

 

[morgaj1]

I did a little headwork (porting) to my 460R and the thing outcuts with 20-24" bar) most 70cc+ stiel saws Ive used/owned.

I see your problem, you are using one of those Chinese Stihl knockoffs. It's a dead giveaway when you see Stiel on the side of the saw.:msp_wink: