It's here!!!!............Inside the MS661

[SawTroll]

Which were both failed attempts of a 262 replacement.

The 362xp was - the 357xp really was the 254xp replacement.

 

[sawfun]

That still leaves the 395 as top dog in the 88cc - 93cc class. Although the 395 seems more like a 6 cube saw in performance.

Why Stihl doesn't work on the balance issue is beyond me. Combining balance & spring AV would take away the main advantages that the Huskys have.

 

[blsnelling]

Don. Go away. We don't need you here trying to cause trouble.

 

[Mastermind]

The 395 seems like a much larger saw than the 661.....

Think cinder block with handles.

 

[blsnelling]

No way will I sell my 390XP. This saw will have to out do a 395XP for me. I just like the 390 that much. The 395...it's a lumbering beast, but runs like it too. I'd love to see the 661 out do the 395!

 

[sawfun]

Well everybody's gotta be good for something Brad. .

 

[SawTroll]

Thanks for the info guys, I did not realize the 361 was lighter than it's counterparts.

.... .

The MS361 weights like the 560xp = one of the lighter 60cc saws. It never was a secret that the MS361 was lighter than the 262xp and 357xp - I pointed it out many times myself!

 

[blsnelling]

The 361 and 357 weighed exactly the same. I have pics somewhere to prove it. But, this is about the 661

 

[Mastermind]

No way will I sell my 390XP. This saw will have to out do a 395XP for me. I just like the 390 that much. The 395...it's a lumbering beast, but runs like it too. I'd love to see the 661 out do the 395!

If I needed to count on a saw to but food on my table day after day......the 372, or the 390XP would not be at the top of my list of wanted saws.

But this is about the 661.

 

[MustangMike]

Thanks Troll, I'm still relatively new to the site, and still learning. Plus, the way I got bashed for the wt of the 362 I would never have guessed it was about the same as a beloved 262! I just presumed all the older 60 cc saws were around the wt of the 361, which I knew was lighter than the 362.

 

[funky sawman]

So mastermind, what is you choice for an everyday cutter?

 

[SawTroll]

The 361 and 357 weighed exactly the same. I have pics somewhere to prove it. ....

If that is the comparison I remember from some years back, it was flawed in several ways.....

I agree we are way off topic though!

 

[AKDoug]

Me too. All my new Stihls were started on very few pulls and many of the M-Tronics on the first pull fresh out the box. On the older 4-pos switch, it goes like this; choke one pull pop and stutter while I slide the selector to part choke and blip she runs one pull total. On the M-Tronics, one pull and blip she runs. If your saw doesn't do it, you've lost compression, have an air leak, fuel quality issues, caked plug and/or improper spark plug or coil gap, wrong tuning or flywheel timing. The chances of one or many/all of these happening to your saw is more than you think. If you aren't running saws everyday, they might take two pulls to get the impulse primed.

I'm curious to hear one reason why it isn't so?

I don't really want to feed the trolls... but I have sold several dozen M-tronic saws and NOT A SINGLE ONE will start on the first pull EVER. Even my own personal saws, one ported by TreeMonkey, will start on less than three pulls if they've sat for more than a day. I don't know where this magical ******** got started, but M-Tronic is not fuel injection. It's a frigging carburetor with electronically adjusted jetting. It still lives by the same rules every other carb'd saw does. It takes a pull or two to develop the right amount of vacuum to pull fuel from the tank, into the carb, and through the ports to the top of the piston to start the combustion process.

 

[MustangMike]

Point taken guys, sorry!

 

[Mastermind]

So mastermind, what is you choice for an everyday cutter?

MS440, 460 or 660

 

[SawTroll]

Thanks Troll, I'm still relatively new to the site, and still learning. Plus, the way I got bashed for the wt of the 362 I would never have guessed it was about the same as a beloved 262! I just presumed all the older 60 cc saws were around the wt of the 361, which I knew was lighter than the 362.

The MS362 is heavier than both the 562, 357 and 262, while the 361 and 560 are lighter. Nothing new with that.

 

[Don Renig]

I don't really want to feed the trolls... but I have sold several dozen M-tronic saws and NOT A SINGLE ONE will start on the first pull EVER. Even my own personal saws, one ported by TreeMonkey, will start on less than three pulls if they've sat for more than a day. I don't know where this magical ******** got started, but M-Tronic is not fuel injection. It's a frigging carburetor with electronically adjusted jetting. It still lives by the same rules every other carb'd saw does. It takes a pull or two to develop the right amount of vacuum to pull fuel from the tank, into the carb, and through the ports to the top of the piston to start the combustion process.

Far out.

 

[MustangMike]

#$**&$#@

That 661 is a nice looking saw.

 

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