DavesMower&Saw
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Stihl Ultra in the work saws, Klotz Original Techniplate in the race saws. Only reason I don't run Klotz in the work saws is the price.
Klotz Super Techniplate 2-Stroke Pre-Mix, Ok to use in Stihl MS310?
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dk27
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Here's some info I found from a klotz oil retailer.
Synthetic oils are group IV (PAOs) and group V (esters) base oils. These synthetic oils are "man-made" synthesized uniform molecular structures that significantly improve the efficiency and effectiveness of these oils relative to their petroleum oil competitors. More specifically, these oils have lower coefficients of friction, thermal (heat) and pour-point (cold weather performance) properties than do petroleum oils. Finally, synthetic oils have no waxes, tars, or other contaminants to sludge or varnish your engine
Synthetic oils are group IV (PAOs) and group V (esters) base oils. These synthetic oils are "man-made" synthesized uniform molecular structures that significantly improve the efficiency and effectiveness of these oils relative to their petroleum oil competitors. More specifically, these oils have lower coefficients of friction, thermal (heat) and pour-point (cold weather performance) properties than do petroleum oils. Finally, synthetic oils have no waxes, tars, or other contaminants to sludge or varnish your engine
RiverRat2
Serio Tree Freak
Been running Klotz in all my two smokes,, From chainsaws,& Weed wackers to A $15,000.00 Merc Drag boat motor for years, Never an oil related failure,,,
Even when I break one!!!!! LOLOL!!!!
Did yall ask Gary if we can have another Oil thread???
Even when I break one!!!!! LOLOL!!!!
Did yall ask Gary if we can have another Oil thread???
Some of this is true, but most of it is marketing BS. PAO's and Esters are refined mineral oils. they're refined using the Fischer–Tropsch process. Some of Klotz oils like Original TechniPlate have plant extracts.
RiverRat2
Serio Tree Freak
Wow!!!!!
:jawdrop:
:jawdrop:
Somebody with "the last place you'll see if you come after midnight" in their sig calling somebody alse a blowhard.
BigMoneyGrip
ArboristSite Operative
Whew! I'm glad I don't have any oil questions! I've made my decision on the oil I use and it's as clean as anything I've ever used.
I raced 2-strokes and have learned a couple of things. One being that jetting has a LOT to do with how clean it burns.
I'm gonna shut up 'cause I ain't nobody!
I raced 2-strokes and have learned a couple of things. One being that jetting has a LOT to do with how clean it burns.
I'm gonna shut up 'cause I ain't nobody!
muad
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Mods, I believe this can be locked now.
My answer has been answered, and I don't want any more flaming between members.
I want to thank ALL who participated, even those who were arguing and calling each other names. You ALL were very helpful to me.
Thanks again!!
-Will
My answer has been answered, and I don't want any more flaming between members.
I want to thank ALL who participated, even those who were arguing and calling each other names. You ALL were very helpful to me.
Thanks again!!
-Will
No need to lock any thread. I actually have ran All the oils listed in this thread, plus many others. Klotz oils can and does run dirty, but it has incredible great shear strength, that's why racers run klotz, that and because they make oils that mix well with, methanol alcohol and Nitromethane. In fact I have some race mix with Nitromethane, only oil I'll mix with it is Klotz.
Anyway run what you like, I'll answer any oil question to the best of my ability, if you don't like my answer so be it, move on.
Anyway run what you like, I'll answer any oil question to the best of my ability, if you don't like my answer so be it, move on.
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muad
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Andy,
Your input was much appreciated. I just didn't want you guys to continue to argue, that's all.
I'll gladly take your advice any day, and am glad you were able to help me. Because the Klotzs had such a sweet smell, and because of the "Pre-Mix" label, I though it had some kind of alcohol or something in it already.
The reason I asked here, is because I knew people like yourself would be able to respond. That's why I love forums so much, because you normally have a wide variety of helpful people with good experience to help those in need, and generally you all share a common interest (in this case saws and WOOD
) I've learned more from users like yourself on forums about saws, guns, and cars, that would have taken me years of failing and trying new things to accumulate on my own
Thanks again friend! Oh, and GO BUCKS!!! OH.....
Thanks man I try and give the best answer I know how, but some sure don't like it lol.
No doubt Klotz oil is good stuff, if you like running it, run it, but they're other options out there to choose from if you want to.
No doubt Klotz oil is good stuff, if you like running it, run it, but they're other options out there to choose from if you want to.
1steve
ArboristSite Guru
Just finished reading, thanks for the suggestion it did help.
RiverRat2
Serio Tree Freak
+1 what Andy said
:cool2:
Thanks man I try and give the best answer I know how, but some sure don't like it lol.
No doubt Klotz oil is good stuff, if you like running it, run it, but they're other options out there to choose from if you want to.
:cool2:
dk27
ArboristSite Operative
Esters are refined mineral oils
Here is a technical paper on synthetic esters for lubricants.
ESTERS IN SYNTHETIC LUBRICANTS
By T. G. Schaefer
In the simplest terms, esters can be defined as the reaction products of acids and alcohols
Here is a technical paper on synthetic esters for lubricants.
ESTERS IN SYNTHETIC LUBRICANTS
By T. G. Schaefer
In the simplest terms, esters can be defined as the reaction products of acids and alcohols
100% correct. If I'm not mistaken the first oils called synthetic were Castor oils, and the only reason they called them syn was because they didn't come from crude.
dk27
ArboristSite Operative
I'm not brand selective,I just want the best lubricant that I can find.I have to much time and money tied up in o.p.e. to run anything but that.
I've a year old pro back blowwer that has seen nothing but r 50.I've put 10's of gallons of mix thru this.All at full throttle for hours on end.
Top of the piston is so clean, You can still see the milling marks.
I was hoping to pull down a couple of saws this winter to see if they are fairing as well seeing how they aren't run at full throttle for such long durations.
But have not had a spare moment with the winter we have been having!
I've a year old pro back blowwer that has seen nothing but r 50.I've put 10's of gallons of mix thru this.All at full throttle for hours on end.
Top of the piston is so clean, You can still see the milling marks.
I was hoping to pull down a couple of saws this winter to see if they are fairing as well seeing how they aren't run at full throttle for such long durations.
But have not had a spare moment with the winter we have been having!
