New bar smoking a lot--because of kinked chain, clogged oil hole, or too much 2-stroke?

[cutter44752]

My bars always seem to smoke a lot, I use a grease gun for the nose but I think some of my chains may be *slightly* kinked and/or I put too much 2-stroke into the mix (but why does the whole bar smoke?) Also my saw doesn't use up oil as fast as it used to so I'm wondering if the little hole is slightly clogged (I try to clean it but it's hard to get to). Short videos and a picture attached, when I'm attached cutting (and need two hands on the saw and can't film) it's quite a bit smokier. Thanks

 

[ElevatorGuy]

Husky probs. All jokes aside, not enough oil is getting on the chain. Look at the browning on the teeth of the chain from overheating. Too much bar for the saw or just a weak oiler?

 

[irhunter]

(I try to clean it but it's hard to get to).

I would pull the clutch cover and bar. Run the saw without those parts, and report how much oil is coming out of the oiler hole.

I can't view the vids. The little bit of saw I can see in the one pic suggests you make need to clean your saw more often.

Roy

 

[bwalker]

The snow is coming from your bar. Chain appears to be dull and your using the dogs to force it into. This will make any bar run hot. Also it appears to be semi chisel which will alwo make the bar run hot.

 

[J D]

That chain has taken an absolute hammering! Needs about 2mm filed off it & the rakers taken down to bring it back to serviceable. Bar will need dressing too.
Probably not a bad idea to flush the oil tank out & check that the oil pickup isn't clogged. If it's cold you might want to consider running a winter grade bar oil

 

[J D]

Also it appears to be semi chisel which will alwo make the bar run hot.

Never heard of that being a thing... can you elaborate please

 

[HumBurner]

Also it appears to be semi chisel which will alwo make the bar run hot.

Never heard of that being a thing... can you elaborate please

Yea, that's complete BS

 

[pioneerguy600]

A chain that dull and with depth gauges that have not ever been adjusted/filed down to .025-.030 lower than the cutters the chain will just slide over the wood needing the saw operator to apply a lot of down force to even attempt to get any cutting action a great amount of heat is created from the friction so yea the bar will smoke. Everyone viewing, look closely at those cutting teeth, they are seriously damaged, the corners are polished while the top angle part of the tooth is worn down,shiny.

 

[sand sock]

new bars can be a tad tight, back in the heal under the bar cover seems to be the spot , i find. take the bar off and check for lube holes to be open. while the chain and bar are off. put the chain on the bar and hand rotate, looking for the tight spot. when you find it, it could be every driver or just a occasional driver. you may have to file the width of the raker. so it rotates easilly.

it could be no lube/defect or chain to tight. your oil pump could be failing or broken or the bar not on right against the block at a angle.

 

[HumBurner]

Didn't realize those were videos.

Your chain is beyond dull and you're smoking your clutch, not the bar.

 

[GMB74]

I can't see the videos, but the one .jpeg I can see shows a chain with extremely worn/damaged cutters. If you are forcing this chain to cut, it is building up heat and causing the bar oil to burn and smoke.
Sharpen or replace your chain!
Clean the bar groove and oil hole while you have the bar off.

 

[Sidecarflip]

Even a dull chain will 'cut' if you reef on it hard enough. Of course it goes from making swarf to sawdust....

My only comment as any other comments would be viewed by the OP as detrimental and condescending. Amazing, just amazing...

Myself, I'd have never posted pictures for all to see....

Take all day to file that loop back to being sharp. Those cutters are really flogged....If it was mine (I never let any loop get that bad), It needs to be ground on a chain grinder and the rakers dropped as well. In the one picture, a close up of the chain shows the rakers almost proud of the front edge of the teeth. I see his location is Mid Atlantic which tells me little but if he's near me in SE Michigan, he can bring the loop by and I'll set it for him for free and drop the rakes too.

Maybe the OP only has one loop instead of 2.

 

[Gord404]

If you want to see to if your oiler is working take your bar and chain off and fire it up, should be coming out of the oil hole pretty good as long as your clutch drum is turning. and go from there about what was said about your chain and bar

 

[Ted Jenkins]

I agree with most of of the previous post as your chain looks dull and possible clutch issues. When I put a 058 chain in a worn 050 bar it smokes like like heck for about fifteen minutes then it is perfect when it seats. Thanks

 

[stihltech]

SHARPEN THE CHAIN FIRST. Thank you.

 

[Mark1]

be sure to match the gauge of your chain with the gauge of the bar - if the chain gauge is too large for the bar it will smoke until it wares a grove in the bar ?

 

[cutter44752]

Husky probs. All jokes aside, not enough oil is getting on the chain. Look at the browning on the teeth of the chain from overheating. Too much bar for the saw or just a weak oiler?

Echo, bar is the right size (18") I think the oiler hole might be partially clogged.

 

[cutter44752]

I would pull the clutch cover and bar. Run the saw without those parts, and report how much oil is coming out of the oiler hole.

I can't view the vids. The little bit of saw I can see in the one pic suggests you make need to clean your saw more often.

Roy

Thanks (I dropped it off at an Echo service location but they said they're backed up for 6-8 weeks so maybe I'll go get it and try that).

 

[cutter44752]

That chain has taken an absolute hammering! Needs about 2mm filed off it & the rakers taken down to bring it back to serviceable. Bar will need dressing too.
Probably not a bad idea to flush the oil tank out & check that the oil pickup isn't clogged. If it's cold you might want to consider running a winter grade bar oil

Ok thanks, I get the chains sharpened at a hardware store so maybe I'll ask them if they also do the rakers (I just bought a $30 sharpener from Harbor Freight but haven't learned how to use it yet).

 

[cutter44752]

I can't see the videos, but the one .jpeg I can see shows a chain with extremely worn/damaged cutters. If you are forcing this chain to cut, it is building up heat and causing the bar oil to burn and smoke.
Sharpen or replace your chain!
Clean the bar groove and oil hole while you have the bar off.

I do clean the bar groove but someone else pointed out the place that sharpens my sawchains might not

Even a dull chain will 'cut' if you reef on it hard enough. Of course it goes from making swarf to sawdust....

My only comment as any other comments would be viewed by the OP as detrimental and condescending. Amazing, just amazing...

Myself, I'd have never posted pictures for all to see....

Take all day to file that loop back to being sharp. Those cutters are really flogged....If it was mine (I never let any loop get that bad), It needs to be ground on a chain grinder and the rakers dropped as well. In the one picture, a close up of the chain shows the rakers almost proud of the front edge of the teeth. I see his location is Mid Atlantic which tells me little but if he's near me in SE Michigan, he can bring the loop by and I'll set it for him for free and drop the rakes too.

Maybe the OP only has one loop instead of 2.

If a loop is a sawchain I have two and take them to a hardware store to get done but maybe they don't do the rakers (also I've been cutting big pieces of black walnut which might be a little big for my 18" saw; I'm in southern Pennsylvania).