These are rare as hens teeth I asked my supplier and got her supplier to do a production run for me and you can find them on www.mittysupply.com. I like my kit saw but not a fan of being forced to use the restricted carb copies. So real saw or kit saw if you have a 440 and need a carb i would buy it now. I will include her in my youtube project next week and unless she bought a bunch they will get gone. they have husky poulan and etc too