Now the hacks are attacking people and trees

[Dadatwins]

Local story about a couple of thug chainsaw waving hacks from around here.

Just adds more character to the tree folks reputation

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servle...128769214863&path=!news!crime&s=1031783565272

 

[pantheraba]

Wacko...it is amazing how much trouble just one finger can get you into.

 

[Brock2saws]

Wacko...it is amazing how much trouble just one finger can get you into.

You said it. I knew a couple of guys, one got killed and another got his chin cut from ear to ear (they were trying to cut his throat but he held is chin down hard enough they just thought they cut it-it was dark) flipping off some passing drivers.

I hope they catch these guys. I can't stand bullies.

BAB

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

Yeah, real brave bunch. Several against one, and they still needed chainsaws and trucks to do more than run their mouths. Of course, I'm sure they spent the next few hours congratulating themselvs on what brave, tough 'men' they are. Pukes.

Reminds me of a confrontation I once saw between a half drunk cowboy (wearing boxer shorts and boots) and a half dozen gangers.

Guess who won!

 

[Dadatwins]

Follow up to this story, police arrested the moron and charges were filed, not enough in my opinion but at least he got caught.

Arrest made in attack on Henrico pedestrian

Richmond Times-Dispatch Jan 12, 2006


RELATED: Police Beat


A man who police said threatened a Henrico County pedestrian with a running chain saw before hitting him with a truck on Sunday has been arrested in Madison County. Travis Wayne Morris, 19, of Rochelle was charged with aggravated malicious wounding, Henrico police said.

Police said Morris was one of several men in two pickup trucks who stopped and harassed the 31-year-old pedestrian as he was walking along Derbyshire Road near Gaskins Road about 4:30 p.m.

The driver of the first truck began throwing things at the victim before retrieving a chain saw, starting it and threatening to cut the man, police said.

The same person then got into his truck and tried to run the victim down. After several attempts, the driver hit the victim, breaking his shoulder and several ribs, police said.

Both pickups were carrying brush, and police were able to identify the alleged attacker after receiving a tip about where he and the other men had been working that day.

Morris was being held in Madison County pending his transfer to Henrico this week.

No charges are anticipated against the other men who stopped but did not harm the victim, Perry said. -- Mark Bowes

 

[Chronic1]

My 40 cal Glock could maim them all with two shots if they was standing close together.

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

If you really believe that please don't ever carry a gun. You'll get yourself killed.

Hollywood is a lousy place to learn about guns.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

If you really believe that please don't ever carry a gun. You'll get yourself killed.

Hollywood is a lousy place to learn about guns.

Very true, but I didnt learn about guns in Hollywood.


Kenn

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

My 40 cal Glock could maim them all with two shots if they was standing close together.

It is called an enfilade shot, wher one round passes through a file. Ambushes are planned around this concept, the machinegun is placed for enfliade fire while the rest of the force is placed where the enemy is most likely to run to evade. With claymores in front.

"L" shaped ambushes are placed in bends in roads and trails.

A heavy, high velosity, jacketed round can pass through several targets befor loosing its effective energy.

 

[rfwoodvt]

It is called an enfilade shot, wher one round passes through a file. Ambushes are planned around this concept, the machinegun is placed for enfliade fire while the rest of the force is placed where the enemy is most likely to run to evade. With claymores in front.

"L" shaped ambushes are placed in bends in roads and trails.

A heavy, high velosity, jacketed round can pass through several targets befor loosing its effective energy.

JP !?

I didn't know you were a ballistics and tactics man! Where'd you study?

 

[OutOnaLimb]

L shaped ambushes are the most effective. Ideally you want to set up your guns firing down the long axis of the kill zone keeping the beaten zone narrow with little traversing. Its important however that your guns be on a tripod and T&E set so that you dont fire up your assault element. Ambushes are always initiated with the most casualty producing weopon, Ie. claymores. As a rule you do not want to initiate with an open bolt weopon such as a M60, 240G, or SAW. the last thing you want to hear in the ambush is , Ka-chunk!! One of the most important elements of the ambush is the left and right security element. You need to seal off the objective to keep the enemy from escaping, and to keep reinforcements from running up onto the objective while your assault element is contucting the EPW search. Or so I have heard.

RLTW
Kenn

 

[Chronic1]

If you really believe that please don't ever carry a gun. You'll get yourself killed.

Hollywood is a lousy place to learn about guns.

LOL, I'm a peaceful man. I didn't learn about guns from Hollywood, my father was a design engineer for Remington Firearms..You've hear of Remington ?

I learned firearm safety before I could walk, and can shoot the stinger off a bee at 100 yards. LOL.

 

[stihlatit]

When I first read the article I said to myself I am surprised that gunplay did not come into the scene. Then in disapointment I read the rest of the posts. Personally I am also a peaceful man and feell that the right thing happened to the agravator. The authorities have him in custody and will deal with him in the proper fashion. My feelings are for the innocent victim and his family and the temporary loss of finances. I really dont believe more violence is the answer but then I live in Canada where the gun laws are different. I have to ask would it make you feel good to actually kill someone cause if so I agree with the other post that you should not own a gun and especially not carry one in public.

Arnie

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

LOL, I'm a peaceful man. I didn't learn about guns from Hollywood, my father was a design engineer for Remington Firearms..You've hear of Remington ?

I learned firearm safety before I could walk, and can shoot the stinger off a bee at 100 yards. LOL.

You should have learned something about terminal ballistics, too. A Glock is not going to "pass through several targets befor loosing its effective energy".


Combat handguns such as a .40 are barely adequate to take down ONE person with MULTIPLE rounds, let alone multiple persons with one round. Flukes happen, but wise men don't bet their lives on flukes.


Obviously, hunting calibers such as a .454 Casull are a different matter.

"Loosing"? Read my sig!

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

I have to ask would it make you feel good to actually kill someone

What's "feeling good" got to do with it? It's about staying alive. It's not always what it's cracked up to be, but it usually beats suffering a violent death.

 

[stihlatit]

What's "feeling good" got to do with it? It's about staying alive. It's not always what it's cracked up to be, but it usually beats suffering a violent death.

I realize that blue. The actual incident did not end up in death fortunately. I commented on the violent posts of a military style comando raid on another citizen. Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Desert Storm, Grenada, Panama.......what are we thinking here these are the streets of your country why add to the allready high gun death rate you have, not to mention having a dead person on your conscience.

Arnie

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

I realize that blue. The actual incident did not end up in death fortunately.

Through no fault of the perpetrator. Had the victim been armed, he would have been completely justfied (legally and morally) in shooting his assailant.

I commented on the violent posts of a military style comando raid on another citizen. Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Desert Storm, Grenada, Panama.......what are we thinking here these are the streets of your country why add to the allready high gun death rate you have, not to mention having a dead person on your conscience.

A dead person is only on my conscience if I killed him wrongly. If I'm defending myself or an innocent person who is being attacked, no problem. I don't say that I would take it lightly, but finding it a serious matter (which it IS) is a far cry from having a dead person on my conscience.


BTW, the high gun death rate is not as high as you think, compared to other nations. (Not to mention that England, Australia, and lately Canada seem to be doing their best to close the gap. ) Get your info from the socialists (the anti-gun crowd) and you are getting propaganda, not facts.

 

[stihlatit]

Through no fault of the perpetrator. Had the victim been armed, he would have been completely justfied (legally and morally) in shooting his assailant.






A dead person is only on my conscience if I killed him wrongly. If I'm defending myself or an innocent person who is being attacked, no problem. I don't say that I would take it lightly, but finding it a serious matter (which it IS) is a far cry from having a dead person on my conscience.


BTW, the high gun death rate is not as high as you think, compared to other nations. (Not to mention that England, Australia, and lately Canada seem to be doing their best to close the gap. ) Get your info from the socialists (the anti-gun crowd) and you are getting propaganda, not facts.

In Canada you would be charged if you murdered him. The charge would be a lesser degree of manslaughter as it is in self defense. This is the political difference in our countries as well as the mindset.

You are correct in saying that we have lately had some gun problems in Canada and that it is growing. Guns are very restricted here and yes the thugs dont care. We as non violent peace loving Canadians are not used to this rise in shootings and are very concerned about it. A lot of our thugs get guns that have been smuggled across from the U S as your gun laws make it an easy purchase.

I still cant condone the death of another person as I feel it is no ones right to take another life so I am sorry to hear that you feel that way Blue. We are however far behind in gun statistics in the U S.

I suppose that we could debate this all night but I would sooner agree to disagree with your philosophy.

Arnie

 

[BlueRidgeMark]

I still cant condone the death of another person as I feel it is no ones right to take another life

Tell me that when it's you and your (what? icepick? kitchen knife? good wishes?) between a gang of thugs and your wife, daughter, and mother. Or will you just wring your hands and beg while they torture, rape, and kill your loved ones?

When it comes to violent predators, killing them is not a right, it's a responsibility.

Look at the rates of recidivism for murders, rapists, and child molesters. People with your attitude are directly culpable for MOST of those crimes, as MOST are committed by repeat offenders.

"I'm not sure capital punishment has any deterent effect. Of course, I also don't care whether it has any deterent effect. I'll settle for the favorable rate of recidivism associated with it."

.45 Long Colt


The rest of his post also applies.

No, BTW, that's not me. I wish I had said it!

 

[OutOnaLimb]

I realize that blue. The actual incident did not end up in death fortunately. I commented on the violent posts of a military style comando raid on another citizen. Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Desert Storm, Grenada, Panama.......what are we thinking here these are the streets of your country why add to the allready high gun death rate you have, not to mention having a dead person on your conscience.

Arnie

You forgot Somalia. And I already have dead people on my Conscience.