Now the hacks are attacking people and trees

[OutOnaLimb]

Duddly Do Right forgot to mention the peace loving Canadian Airborne Regiment that was disbanded after Several un-justified killings in Mogidishu, Somalia back in 1993.

Kenn

 

[Chronic1]

My wife had a kinipshon fit when I purchased the Glock, and you're right....not likely to be able to do what I said......macho BS on my behalf. I like the Glock, high cap and very little recoil for a 40 cal, in my opinion. It feels good in my hands, although I had trouble with the lack of traditional "safety" mechanisms.

But, I would love to purchase a nice assault rifle, boy the wife would be really happy about that one. LOL.

Anyone know what are the best types ?

 

[Chronic1]

Here where I live, Meth is a big problem. Spun out tweekers looking for drug cash. My wife's coworker had a burglar at her bed a couple of weeks back, I had a standoff in my nieghborhood a couple houses down three weeks ago.....innocent people getting carjacked.

I'm a realist, If someone tries to harm my family or invade my house, I will kill them. And I'll feel good I protected innocent people and smoked a violent crackhead. MY 2 cents.

 

[stihlatit]

Duddly Do Right forgot to mention the peace loving Canadian Airborne Regiment that was disbanded after Several un-justified killings in Mogidishu, Somalia back in 1993.

Kenn

Yes and thank god they were. Then you have the ex navy seals as paramilitary operatives in Colombia.
PS thats not about drugs. Its about capitalism.

Arnie

 

[stihlatit]

You forgot Somalia. And I already have dead people on my Conscience.

I left out a lot of places of world terrorism. Sorry but I would run out of paper.
Arnie

 

[stihlatit]

BTW, the high gun death rate is not as high as you think, compared to other nations. (Not to mention that England, Australia, and lately Canada seem to be doing their best to close the gap. ) Get your info from the socialists (the anti-gun crowd) and you are getting propaganda, not facts.

The numbers came out today for the year 2005 for gun related deaths.

Los Angelis Over 500 I believe it was 527.
New York just under 500 I believe it was 486.
Toronto Canada 78.

And Blue we are in shock up here about 78.

Arnie

 

[notahacker]

Some people are just out looking for a fight. Whether it be with weapons or words. I think some here are just looking for a fight.

 

[clearance]

hacks

I have driven my pickup with brush-ya'll giving hacks a bad name. That Somalia comment-bullseye-too funny, haven't thought about that for years. The govt. disbanded a very proud, elite regiment because the guys got a little carried away and killed a kid. In Canada you cannot kill anyone in self defence except in the most exceptional circumstances. If people are trying to kill you you should be able to kill them to defend yourself, common sense. Here you will be charged with manslaughter, hopefully a jury will find you not guilty. If found guilty you will be sent to prison, were guess what? You might want or have to to kill someone else. Best to be judged rather than buried. I do know that if armed people break into your house at night you are supposed to run out the back door and escape, I believe there was a Canadian court case where a man defended himself and home and was convicted of manslaughter.

 

[notahacker]

Bastards!

 

[BlackenedTimber]

In my opinion, the Canadian Laws are all effed up. If someone wants to kill you, or do you or your loved ones harm, THE ONLY reasonable course of action is to ATTACK. thats it. If that bastard tried to run me over with his Ford F-series, I would have rocketed a few rounds through the windshield. Also, I think the very sight/sound of a gun going off would have been enough to deter these guys. I like chainsaws, but they are no match for a .45 wadcutter. As far as our high gun death rates here, I think all of that is relative. New york has alot more people than toronto, so does LA.

August 2004 Handgunner:

190,000; words of gun crime on ABC, CBS, and NBC news in 2001.

0; words covering anytime a gun was used defensively.

50,745; words on 'gun crimes' published in 2001 by NY times.

163; Words in a single stoy on a citizen who used his gun to stop a robbery.

1,500; Children under 5 who die each day of Malaria in Africa

.235; Children 0-14 who die each day from firearms accidents in the USA.

Also, I think that if the canadian thugs knew that THEY might get shot (assuming Canada didn't have thier gun laws) then they might not be so eager to harass you.

Also, let me point out that Japan, the UK, and Canada all have higher suicide rates than the United States, and all of them have highly restrictive gun laws.

Shoot the :censored: in the pickup before he can run you over. end of story.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

So let me get this straight. In Canada if some armed burgler is breaking into your house your ownly legal option is to grab your wife and children and try to escape? Thats kinda messed up. What if you had a Rottweiler that mauled said burgler in your house? Would you get arrested for assault with intent to commit bodily injury? What kind of messed up laws are those. It sounds like the criminals have more rights than the citizens.

Kenn

 

[stihlatit]

So let me get this straight. In Canada if some armed burgler is breaking into your house your ownly legal option is to grab your wife and children and try to escape? Thats kinda messed up. What if you had a Rottweiler that mauled said burgler in your house? Would you get arrested for assault with intent to commit bodily injury? What kind of messed up laws are those. It sounds like the criminals have more rights than the citizens.

Kenn

It is more complicated then that as we live in two different countries and grew up with a different ideology surrounding guns. As best as can be described you are correct. In regards to the dog no recourse on the owner. It seems screwed up but it is a different system.

Arnie

 

[OutOnaLimb]

Dang, thats some messed up ideology. Im glad I dont live in Canada.

Kenn

 

[Tree Frog]

Interesting thread. I appreciate the article and bring a sense of reality to the world that we live in. No matter where you live we must all be aware of our surroundings and what can happen if we do certain things.

Remember the victim returned the gesture. He may have been too quick in reacting and not evaluating the situation. Two trucks driving together carrying brush with young men behind the wheel.

He did not deserve what happened and if he had a CCL and the correct training he may have been able to properly defended himself or tipped the scale a bit in his favor. If a person is wielding a weapon (chainsaw) within 21 feet he his able to make contact with you in less than 2 seconds. That takes training and an ability to react properly to the situation. The average persons with experience and training has the ability to draw and fire one round on target in 1.5 seconds. This does not guarantee you will not be contacted by the attacker's weapon. This is why you wear body armor.

To walk around without the the reality of hazards around you is dangerous and can quickly lead to becoming a victim. The lessons learned by this is to be continually evaluating your surrounding, situation, and possible responses to contend with.

My 2 cents.

 

[Chronic1]

In Colorado, we have the infamous "make my day law". As long as the body drops inside the house, you're good to go. Now, if they crawl out on the floor....screaming and clutching thier stomach whist hemmohraging (sp?) onto your freshly swept driveway,,,you might be in trouble.

Sooo, the moral of the story is that head shots are your best bet (with larger caliber rounds), keep the kids and wifey safely upstairs while you call 1-800-crimesceneclean.

 

[pbtree]

I don't speak for anyone else but myself - if some thug were aiming their truck at me, yes, I would like to have a .45 in my hand - why the heck not.

There is no sense in being a helpless victim.

I hope they hang the ba$tards...

 

[pbtree]

So let me get this straight. In Canada if some armed burgler is breaking into your house your ownly legal option is to grab your wife and children and try to escape? Thats kinda messed up. What if you had a Rottweiler that mauled said burgler in your house? Would you get arrested for assault with intent to commit bodily injury? What kind of messed up laws are those. It sounds like the criminals have more rights than the citizens.

Kenn

It is like England - the thugs and criminals have more of a right to life than their victims do. Pretty twisted really...

 

[stihlatit]

Dang, thats some messed up ideology. Im glad I dont live in Canada.

Kenn

Interesting thread. I appreciate the article and bring a sense of reality to the world that we live in. No matter where you live we must all be aware of our surroundings and what can happen if we do certain things.

To walk around without the the reality of hazards around you is dangerous and can quickly lead to becoming a victim. The lessons learned by this is to be continually evaluating your surrounding, situation, and possible responses to contend with.

My 2 cents.

It is like England - the thugs and criminals have more of a right to life than their victims do. Pretty twisted really...

OK you can call it a screwed up ideology or pretty twisted here in Canada. I guess I could say the same about your system and then where would we be. I guess that in this case we have to look at the statistics of both systems and when I do that I find one hard fact very hard to get around. According to the numbers there are quadruple the gun deaths in american cities compared to Canada's cities. So you guys are telling me you need these guns to defend yourselves. So are you also telling me that you are shooting more bad guys then the cops. If the crook knows that you may be armed sould you not have less crime and murder? Gee I then have to think that your system is not working as good as ours. It seems you have more hazards then us. By the way a lot of times the gun that you own ends up killing the owner by the crook.

Arnie

 

[OutOnaLimb]

Ummm, Whats the population difference between the US and Canada? Maybe thats has something to do with your statistics.

Kenn

 

[clearance]

Stihlatit is wrong about the way it is in Canada being better, people that mean to rape or kill that break into your house deserve a bullet. However, the U.S. has a homicide rate (per 100 000, nothing to do with population size) that is far, far above any other civilised western country. Some want more gun control and confiscation of guns, that will never happen in the U.S. because your founding fathers put it in the constitution, a genius move. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, it's true. In Switzerland every house that has a man of military age in it has an automatic assualt rifle provided by the Swiss Govt. Switzerland has a very low homicide rate, lower than Cananda where fully auto guns are stricly prohibited along with some semiauto guns too. Every other gun is supposed to be registered and controlled in some way, same with ammunition. All this is a joke because people who use guns for crime couldn't care about the law.